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    10 months ago

    If I learned one thing, when talking with people about stuff like that: Most people unfortunately don’t care. Many don’t even have an ad blocker to begin with.

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              It’s one of the last of the laugh track comedies. Wondering what kids of the future are going to think about shows like that.

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                Laugh tracks and audiences are the worst.

                If your show requires prompting on when to laugh, it’s probably not as funny as you think.

                Many shows just aren’t that funny when you take out the laughing, and if you were to cut all the awkward pauses the show would be 7 minutes shorter.

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                  there are shows where it works (Frasier) and shows where it’s horrible (Frasier 2023)

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                  “rolling laughter” is a technique you have to learn as a live performer for a reason. TV shows at the time had to bridge the gap as the 80s/90s invention of stand up as an art form set the tone for how comedy should be.

                  It’s not that it was always bad, it’s just that culture changed. Same as how a Jacobite audient would find it real weird we watch theatre inside(!), sitting down(!!) and not talking during the show(!!!).

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                  10 months ago

                  I know you are right about all of this, and yet I will still watch shows like the old Addams Family while I’m doing something else just to have a distraction

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                  An episode of the IT Crowd had a B story that was kinda transphobic. It was minor enough and the show was popular enough he probably could’ve easily just apologized and that would’ve been that. But instead, in 2013 after said episode was brought up and criticized for being transphobic to the creator, said creator tripled down and became a full on anti-trans “activist” who makes even JK Rowling seem benign by comparison.

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      Look, I was among the glorious warriors who installed Firefox on his parents/grandparents PC and replaced its shortcut’s image with IE’s one (because old people hate changes and won’t accept it easily)

      • Oh again! They keep changing my Google internet!

      • Yes grandma, it’s Windows… (« It wasn’t Windows » says the narrator in a deep and mysterious voice) do you want me to install Linux? It’s free and open source and…

      • Keep that commie thing away from me, I like that meadow picture…

      • You know you can change th…

      • Don’t you dare!

      Anyway. We did it. We killed IE hegemony. It’s up to the new generation to take the baton and fight against the tyranny of Google.

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        The idea of installing Linux on a grandparent’s computer is just asking for trouble. I convinced my father in law to give a Chromebook a try since he mostly just uses his computer to get online and boy, was that tricky. The average person has no idea what an Operating System is and will call you the minute they can’t install a new program for some reason.

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          I had a very successful experience! My grandmother had no idea how computers worked at all, so I set up a very stripped-down Ubuntu that didn’t even allow multiple windows open. I could easily remote in whenever she had an issue.

          She used it to check her email, read the news, and watch Obama’s weekly address until the week she died. (Unrelated to the computer)

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            I feel like there’s a curve of where this could work. For the extremely technically illiterate or technically literate, you’d be ok. But for the middle chunk of the population, it’d be more confusing than it’s worth.

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      The people who don’t care and don’t have an adblocker aren’t and weren’t ever the target. The people who are being targeted have an adblocker, and they’re all moving to FireFox.

      What Google is getting out of this most of all is future compliance as new users coming to Chrome will never know a world in which ad blockers were freely available on Chrome, as well as dog whistling this to other corporate browser vendors.

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        Don’t forget they’re pushing chrome on the whole internet. Websites are already telling Firefox users to fuck off if we aren’t spoofing chromium and it’s only going to get worse after this.

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        Long term they will move to Firefox also.

        Because people like us will continue to suggest they use Firefox as their “tech person”.

        It’s just a little slower for the people that don’t care.

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          10 months ago

          That is exactly how Chrome took over internet explorer back in the day.

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    10 months ago

    I doubt most people use an adblocker.

    Anyone who’s aware of these issues or cares about them really should have been smart enough to switch to Firefox a long time ago.

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        46% global and 27 USA? Damn the us people are even more tech illiterate than I would’ve guessed. I suppose the 85+% market share of the iPhone among teens has something to do with it.

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          It’s much better than what I observe with people around me, I would have guessed about 10%

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          10 months ago

          A big enough hit if 42% of Chrome users switch to a different browser.

          However, I wouldn’t be surprised to see that people with adblock are more likely to use something other than Chrome. And some people will stay with Chrome and deal with the lack of adblock.

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            Roughly 60% of people use chrome so I’m sure there is a big cross over.

            But I feel if people really cared they wouldn’t use chrome to begin with.

            Time will tell.

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        You can also do that with Firefox on your computer.

        It’s not in settings, but you can easily google the instructions.

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          Google used to be like “we have found 10 quadrillion websites with your term” and you could click page 173 and it would give you the list for as many times as you wanted to click

          Then they went to giving you several pages but if you clicked past page two they would be like hahaha psych there are actually only two pages of results for “starcraft two newbie tips”

          Now I’ll search for specific phrases I know I read somewhere and I’ll get like, three god damn results.

          Really? On the entire internet? Three results?

          It’s just disrespectful and insulting

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      10 months ago

      Which makes this even more annoying. Like you have good chunk of the world using your browser with ads, but you still want even more and are still taking these types of scummy actions.

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        10 months ago

        I think they’re taking aim at people who use an adblocker because it’s simple and won’t bother if they make it harder than installing an extension.

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    10 months ago

    The description is “Google will disable MV2 extensions in 2024, including ublock origin” and the title is “Google will disable Ublock origin in 2024”

    YouTube clickbait title moment.

    I use firefox btw

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    The majority of people on Chrome at this point are the same people that only ever used Internet Explorer until like 2015. They aren’t even using Ublock, they don’t even know what it is. The kind of people who have their nephew set their computers up for them.

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    10 months ago

    Google when people stop using chrome

    Not so sure about that. I know more than enough persons who still like to use Edge (Internet Explorer).

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      The problem isn’t Edge in itself. It is good if there are many browsers. But when Javascript became more than just a play thing, all of a sudden browser slowly moved to chromium as an engine. There used to be Opera, IE, Edge, Firefox, Safari and Chrome with each their own browser engine. Now there is only Chromium/Blink, Safari and Firefox left. Google is way too powerful with their marketshare. They constantly try to implement features that are bad for users.

      Please use Firefox if you can!

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      I use Edge at work and it’s a really decent browser. It’s not Internet Explorer it’s basically Chrome with different tracking software lol

      Obviously I use Firefox personally. But it’s actually decent.

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        I also use it at work and it really sucks. I also have Chrome on my work computer, but for everything work-related I have to use Edge. Like E-Mails and Sharepoint-Stuff. Edge’s startup time is at least 4 times Chrome’s startup time. Sites load extremely slow directly compared to Chrome. No Adblockers. I really don’t like this.

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          You can install extensions right from the Chrome Web Store with Edge. I have uBlock Origin in Edge on my work PC.

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          I also use it at work and it really sucks. I also have Chrome on my work computer, but for everything work-related I have to use Edge. Like E-Mails and Sharepoint-Stuff.

          That’s a decision your IT department made. I use Firefox with all of that at work.

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            Can confirm. I also have to use Sharepoint with certain groups, and it works just fine. The web interface for Outlook works just fine as well.

            I also have to use Google at work, and everything I’ve used works within Firefox.

            I think it’s important to point this out because a lot of people seem to be laboring under the misconception that the sites they use will break in Firefox. The only sites I’ve found that don’t work are things like Bing AI, which work fine if you switch the user agent header.

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      Anecdote, but all of my friends & family members that depend on me for computer support have already stopped using it. IT at my company has also decided to stop loading it with their install images, because “ads are known attack vectors”.

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      Makes me wonder why they’re actually doing it. How much revenue do they think they’ll gain from blocking ad blockers? Are they doing this for that revenue, or are they trying to tell advertisers that Google ads are a safer investment?

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    waaah please watch this piss poor ad that we spent 20 million on to get in front of your face only for you to skip it or ignore it entirely we are taking any possibility you will not see this away so you HAVE to you HAVE to buy it

    [redacted] yourself you fucking parasites

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    I’m sure some people will swap, but nah no way it’s a meaningful loss

    Ad blockers will still exist too, they just won’t be as effective. If the layman installs an ad blocker and gets one less ad, they won’t question it further

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    I stopped using Chrome a while back, but still use Gmail because I’m lazy. Every time I crank open Gmail in another browser, Google whines at me to use Chrome. That grizzling pop-up is now the main reason I don’t use Chrome, and it will eventually drive me to migrate away from Gmail. DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!

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      Commenting because I’m in the same boat.

      Gmail was so handy because it did a good job at filtering the spam and offered customization. But it’s doing a worse job at the spam and not a good enough one at customization. Where should I go?

      Proton mail? Some similar platform?

      I’m terrible at maintaining my email but I check it often enough.

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        I’m trying both Outlook and Proton. I’ll probably go with Proton, but aaaaargh, the thought of all the tedious work involved… I’ve got better things to do!

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    Given how quickly everyone I know took to using Chrome on phones despite no adblock being available, I think sadly it won’t have as big an impact as I wish it would.

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      Tbf it’s not exactly made easy to completely remove chrome + Google from phones.

      Even if you set Firefox as default, even with webview, some Google apps will call chrome anyway using the built in webview.

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    We still have maybe two years before they start destrying gmail. I think they’re already itching

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      The IMAP support has been more or less broken since the very beginning. Their custom labels make folders behave in a non-standard way and the IMAP itself is terribly slow compared to every single other provider I’ve used. I used to have dedicated workarounds in my email automation scripts for their weird folder semantics, for even such trivial tasks as actually deleting an email as opposed to merely removing a label from it.

      It’s already unusable as far as I’m concerned.

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      They have done shitty things to Gmail before, such as forced Google+ integration, with backlash as expected. They are shutting down the basic HTML version soon, too.