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I’ve never understood thy people are so obsessed telling others that they should not eat dog meat while mjnching on a burger with crispy bacon and chicken nuggets.
If a vegan does it then I get it, but you are not a better person because you arbitrarily chose not to eat some specific meat, but have no problem with cruelty when it comes to other species.
I’m a vegan, but one argument specifically against allowing dog meat trade is that it often encourages stealing companion animals (aka pets) to make a quick buck. Sometimes they’re held ransom and people have to pay the thieves to keep a member of their family from being killed and eaten. Wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
Also, dogs were bred specifically to live alongside humans, to form bonds with us. To do that to any organism and then treat it like livestock is a special kind of monstrous.
So I’m in favor of drawing as many lines as possible when it comes to animal consumption of any kind. And then, if the situation makes you uncomfortable about some of the other lines you’ve drawn around cows, pigs, or chickens, then you analyzing those in more depth too is also a win in my book.
Nuanced take. 👍
This is what I was talking about a vegan will have coherent arguments because they have been thinking about it.
Sometimes they’re held ransom and people have to pay the thieves to keep a member of their family from being killed and eaten.
thats just blackmail it has nothing to do with commercializing dog meat… that stuff is already illegal
My point is that it happens more frequently in places where dog meat is frequently consumed.
It makes no sense to ban the consumption of dogs simply because you are afraid of dog thieves. Do you ban driving a car because some people steal a car?
Nothing in this world is completely beneficial, but you can’t ban everything.
Stealing a car takes way more effort than kidnapping a pet. I’d also bet that people have way more personal attachment to pets than cars because pets are beings with emotions and cars are not.
What about windows? Should we ban that as they are easy for thieves to break?
Whether you have more personal attachment to a car, a pet or anything else is a completely personal thing, everyone should have their choice.
Almost nobody is attached to their windows. Most people treat pets as family members.
If people stealing pets to consume them is a huge problem, then it makes sense to ban the consumption of pets because the benefits of the law outweigh the drawbacks on a society. People who eat dogs ““ethically”” can easily move on to other animals, and the people who continue to consume stolen pets can be punished more harshly, causing fewer people to steal pets. That law would be a net win because the good it does for pet owners vastly outweighs the bad it does for dog consumers.
Why don’t you rob the richest people and share the money with the poorest? Or just ignore the interests of the minorities? Apparently, the good outweighs the bad based on your calculation.
Why don’t you rob the richest people and share the money with the poorest?
We should. The opposite literally happens on a daily basis.
Or just ignore the interests of the minorities?
The US used to do that. It didn’t end well for anybody on multiple occasions. There’s a reason why US politics is so focused on civil rights, because the good outweighs the bad on a societal level.
No, but I did actually see a used bike store get shut down because too many stolen bikes were finding their way there. Sometimes to end a practice you have to go downstream and destroy the market for that thing. There’s no market for vehicular deaths - they just happen.
But it still makes no sense to ban it nationwide or worldwide, or to forbid it by law.
The analogy would not be to ban driving cars, but ban the resale of cars. The incentive for theft is the value; if you remove the value, then there is less incentive to steal it.
So to answer this hypothetical question, should we ban the resale of cars? No, because the owner can be insured for the monetary value of their stolen vehicle. What is the monetary value of a pet? I don’t believe this can be quantified.
Many people like their cars just like the way you like your pets. They should be treated equally.
Yeah I personally wouldn’t be comfortable eating dog meat but I do eat meat so I realise I have no moral high ground. In reality if you have a problem with this as a meat eater it should make you question your own choices if anything.
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Including humans.
It keeps some people from having children who really shouldn’t have children. So it has its uses.
It’s because most people don’t know a cow or chicken. If they did, things might be different. In fact I remember seeing Ira Glass speak and he recounted how he spent some time at a retreat where chickens roamed free, and after having the time and opportunity to observe that they think and feel and have different personalities, he became a vegetarian.
I think you are probably right. For me it’s kind of the opposite but still consistent. When I was a child we had many different animals and I had names for many of them including the sheep Bartek which me and my sister would ride often. In the end we would eat all those animals (but not the dogs or cats). So I’ve been friends with other animals than dogs, I’d even say they were better friends then the dogs I had because I have a hard time remembering the dogs names.
I’m not a dog person, but I gave a cat. The idea of cats being farmed and eaten isn’t pleasant for me. I don’t think that makes me morally superior to someone who eats cats, but it does mean I’d prefer it not happen anywhere near me.
Hypocrisy and racism.
Do you mean racism against cows or chickens?
That would be real racism, but I mean racism against brown people.
Who are the brown people in this context?
deez
It’s not about arbitrary choices; it’s about cultural perspectives. Dogs are often seen as companions, and advocating against eating them is rooted in that sentiment. Just as you might find it odd to eat a pet you’ve grown up with, some feel the same about dogs. It’s about empathy and cultural values, not just personal dietary choices.
Nobody eats their pets. The dogs are bred for meet in farms like any other animal. People have pigs as pets and don’t eat them, but they don’t tell other people to not eat pigs, that’s my point.
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The West fetishizes dogs.
Pussies too
Aw dang. They should eat as much dog as they like.
As long as we’re eating everything else, I don’t see the point in drawing the line at dogs.
Well, that’s fucked up. But okay… Continue to spread your intellectual dishonesty.
What are you talking about?
I’m glad there’s no such ban in the US. Elwood’s Organic Dog Meat is my favorite source of protein, I don’t know how I’d survive without it
That’s all I eat!
Personally, I’m on an all dog meat diet. Science has proven it’s the healthiest diet.
I don’t think this will affect this dog farm: https://www.elwooddogmeat.com/
Dogs on Elwood’s Organic Dog Meat farm were bred for food.
Eating dogs is a personal choice.
Some people prefer the taste of dog.
Yeah ok, you convinced me. Go ahead and keep eating dog.
I mean, yes? Other than most people thinking of dogs as pets what’s the moral difference between eating dog and eating cattle or poultry? It’s pretty hypocritical to ban one and not the other.
And no, I’d never eat a dog. But I have eaten horse.
What the hell! They have their own website! How is this legal?!
What do you mean? eating dogs is a personal choice. Like ok you find them cute or whatever but like pigs are smarter and humans have canines so what ground can you stand on?
I enjoy a nice deep fried dog leg ok? cope harder.
I really wanted pug bacon, but it’s just a vegan scam site.
Read the whole website.
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I don’t know about dog meat, but I only buy chicken from Gentle Farms, Because nobody knows chickens like chickens.™
why?
