Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

Feddit.org’s explanation for this situation seems to fit into a few common variations:

  • They accept both pro- and anti-Zionist members, so it’s not proof of a bias.
  • They [choose to] comply [in advance] with strict German / Swiss / Austrian laws regarding [overly broad] “antisemitic” language, or they might get in trouble.
  • Calling for the destruction of Israel must obviously mean you want to kill every last man, woman and child, rather than simply wanting to overthrow Netanyahu’s genocidal fascist regime. Because [bad faith] reasons.
  • Lots of Euros (and Germans specifically) are pro-Zionist, so they feel like they have to accommodate this view.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. As such, I am calling for feddit.org to:

  • Explicitly prohibit pro-Zionist accounts from joining.
  • Take measures to resolve their claimed legal issues, e.g., moving their server location to a less regulated jurisdiction, and ensuring that admin accounts remain anonymous regarding their location.
  • Stop referring to folks who call for “Death to Israel” or similar as though they are the terrorists or violent extremists. The Zionist Israeli settlers, the murderous IDF rapists, and the entirety of the Israeli government are clearly the violent ethnostate extremists we should be worried about, not the Palestinians in Gaza who are fighting for their lives every single day against completely disproportionate levels of Zionist violence.

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again.

I’ve also pulled out some choice morsels from the modlog to illustrate the sort of thing we are talking about:

This one says it all… mrdown@lemmy.world being banned for calling out feddit.org users for being Zionist apologists. It’s apparently “xenophobic” to state a few hard truths.

If you have had similar experiences on feddit.org, please feel free to share in the comments.

Voting instructions

I am proposing to ban the following communities from feddit.org, which seem to be the most problematic communities in terms of hosting pro-Zionist posts/comments:

Upvote this post if you want dbzer0 / anarchist nexus to ban these communities.

Downvote this post if you’d prefer not to ban these communities.

Note 1: Votes from external instances do not count, unless one of our admins has vouched for you.

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

Note 3: Although I don’t really expect this to happen, if feddit.org agrees to make policy changes to address these issues then we are willing to reassess the situation.

  • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    search “israel” creator “feddit.org/gandhibobandi”

    14 hours ago

    So what are Israeli Arab citizens not allowed to do that Jewish ones are? Given that its a “well known fact” they’re second class citizens?

    I’ll give you that Smotrich and Ben Gvir are fascists if that’s who you’re referring to but it’s hardly accurate to claim they “run the country”, nor are their views representative of the average Israeli given they get a pretty small percentage of the vote.

    oops all zions

    also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBHAitSKtVs

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        4 months ago

        Congratulations you are both. Someone who defends the zionist colonial project is a zionist pretty simple stuff really.

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          I asked a question on how Arab Israelis are treated as second class cirizens and all I’ve gotten back, from multiple people, is insults.

          How very moronic of me to make an effort to understand people’s point of view, I should just tell them to kill themselves. 🙄

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            4 months ago

            I have linked you a video detailing some of the ways apartheid in west palestine is held up and mrdown also had a couple links sent to you

            https://lemmy.ml/post/42861305/23880445

            you just want to close your eyes and ears at the people presenting facts and instead feel righteous when they’re being rude to you because you don’t engage with the topic at all.

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              4 months ago

              I’m not wasting time watching a stream of YouTube videos of tangential relevance. You can just tell me in your own words if you know the answer. Should be easy, right.

              Edit: I also have no replies from anyone called “mrdown”. I don’t know who that is.

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                I linked you and sorry for not having the time or patience to type it all out. I linked you the reply by mrdown I meant even dunno what else you want.

                Also why would showcasing how arabs are treated as second class be easy in an internet comment??

                Here is another article because I remembered Desmond Tutu calling what palestinians face apartheid. https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/palestinians-pay-tribute-desmond-tutu

                but the video gives a rundown of several ways in which arabs are systematically discriminated against. You literally refusing to watch it is not my problem.

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                  It would be as easy as just linking me to an Israeli law that specifies Israeli Arabs should be treated differently to Jewish israelis.

                  Here, I’ll do one for you, as an example. Although this law seems to be one Israeli Arabs appreciate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exemption_from_military_service_in_Israel

                  Edit: would be interesting to know how other ethnic minorities fit into this as well. Are Israeli Druze also second class citizens or are they apart of the oppressor class?