Hey ziq, while you’re around, how are we gonna get rid of industrial society and organized agriculture without killing billions of people and using lots of authority?
The end of industrial agriculture means the starvation of billions of people. The earth cannot support billions of hunter-gatherers or simple subsistence farmers.
And many millions of people need regular medication and medical treatment made possible by industry to keep living.
The end of industrial agriculture means the starvation of billions of people. The earth cannot support billions of hunter-gatherers or simple subsistence farmers.
For some reason utopians online think otherwise. I don’t think they realise what an accomplishment feeding billions of people is.
I’m hearing an implication that all anarchists are opposed to industry. Is this what you’re saying?
Nahh, definitely not. Big respect to actual principled anarchists (who don’t spend all their energy tearing down and slandering the projects of others seeking liberation).
Ziq is one of those anti-civilization “”“anarchists”“” seeking some kind of reactionary return to pre-industrial or even pre-“civilizational” society because of the belief that the problems of capitalism are actually endemic to post-industrial society itself. You can even go on their blog (raddle) and see them shitting on anarchists for believing a better world is possible. It’s weird because at the same time these “anti-civ anarchists” advocate for the end of industrial society, they don’t actually believe it’s possible except through apocalypse, so their praxis extends to waiting until capitalism destroys the planet and then building their ideal world in the “deserts” left behind. Basically a kind of radical doomerism with politically inert and fed characteristics. The result of becoming conscious of the contradictions and effects of capitalism while never moving beyond the neoliberal worldview of “there is no alternative” which is also why you see them spreading the same usual liberal ahistorical bullshit about the USSR.
Literally “the deserter” (as in sand and this book)
Hey ziq, while you’re around, how are we gonna get rid of industrial society and organized agriculture without killing billions of people and using lots of authority?
The end of industrial agriculture means the starvation of billions of people. The earth cannot support billions of hunter-gatherers or simple subsistence farmers.
And many millions of people need regular medication and medical treatment made possible by industry to keep living.
For some reason utopians online think otherwise. I don’t think they realise what an accomplishment feeding billions of people is.
To be clear, I originally thought they were talking about war casualties. Maybe ziq in particular has some beliefs I’m not familiar with.
Nah don’t worry I’m not taking about your comment. I’m talking about most “anti Civ” leftists. You’re cool 😎.
Also the new Peppa pig profile picture lol
Glad you like the profile picture haha it’s from one of those knockoffs where they’re running around with guns and shit
I’m hearing an implication that all anarchists are opposed to industry. Is this what you’re saying?
Edit: maybe I’m not familiar enough with ziq’s beliefs to know what is going on and I’m okay with that.
Nahh, definitely not. Big respect to actual principled anarchists (who don’t spend all their energy tearing down and slandering the projects of others seeking liberation).
Ziq is one of those anti-civilization “”“anarchists”“” seeking some kind of reactionary return to pre-industrial or even pre-“civilizational” society because of the belief that the problems of capitalism are actually endemic to post-industrial society itself. You can even go on their blog (raddle) and see them shitting on anarchists for believing a better world is possible. It’s weird because at the same time these “anti-civ anarchists” advocate for the end of industrial society, they don’t actually believe it’s possible except through apocalypse, so their praxis extends to waiting until capitalism destroys the planet and then building their ideal world in the “deserts” left behind. Basically a kind of radical doomerism with politically inert and fed characteristics. The result of becoming conscious of the contradictions and effects of capitalism while never moving beyond the neoliberal worldview of “there is no alternative” which is also why you see them spreading the same usual liberal ahistorical bullshit about the USSR.