Trans men enter Miss Italy contest to protest anti-trans ‘women from birth’ rule - eviltoast
    • VirulentAura@lemmy.world
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      That’s cool, except if only certain people with certain body configurations have the uncontrolled freedom to be themselves, that’s still a problem.

      Or, as long as people who do not identify with the body they were given are ostricized, there are problems. As long as there are people who are groped because their body is different, lynched because their skin is different, or kept out of certain rooms just because of growths on their bodies they have no control over, there are problems.

      Just because you remove a label doesn’t mean there isnt a problem any more.

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      Something being a social construct does not mean it has no real world effects. That’s kind of the point of identifying it as a social construct. HTH

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          It’s still a social construct if it’s based on facts. Social construct doesn’t mean fake, it means we gave it a name and meaning.

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          So you do think there is a patriarchy? And you think it is based on fact, not the social construction of gender?

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            I think In society men and women formed a structure based on strengths and weaknesses. This is neither dominated by men or women, not the way you want to see it. Which is why I made an earlier comment to go to places where men DO dominate society on every level and treat women like 2nd rate humans. If you truly believe we here in the west live in that way as well, we got nothing left to talk about.

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      “Patriarchy.” You use the word but you dont know what it means. We’re not talking about heads of households, we’re talking about the halls of power; which are controlled by cis men. Gender Equality advocates are not making claims that “men don’t exist,” just that gender its a highly varied spectrum. My guess is you already know this, and willfully ignore nuance so you can push a counter ideological stance. That makes you a lame-o. Sorry.

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      No, there still is. Trans men suffer from all of the same patriarchal oppression that cis men suffer from. The loneliness, the isolation, the expectation that they have no emotion. If you somehow watch trans people TikTok, The men’s biggest complaint is that they now have no friends.

      So yes, the patriarchy exists even if gender is a construct. Because one of those constructed genders oppresses the others, and themselves.

    • vlad@lemmy.sdf.org
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      And from what I’m being told by the internet, men make the best women.