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    • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Yes, but each package manager has it’s (dis-)advantages. It’s great to have flatpak and docker to be able to run software on almost all distros, but the OS still needs a way to update.

      Almost all immutable distros use multiple package manager.

      • Fedora Silverblue: rpm-ostree + flatpak (+ toolbox)
      • OpenSUSE MicroOS: zypper with snapshots (transactional-update) + flatpak (+ distrobox)
      • NixOS is unique since it only uses the Nix package manager
      • immutable Ubuntu will probably only use snap for OS + apps.

      All those OS support distrobox and docker additionally.

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        NixOS is unique because it uses the only potent package manager (if we don’t count that one reimplementation of Nix). Calling the others “package managers” becomes mostly a courtesy when NixOS enters the picture.

        lalala with FS-level snapshots + flatpak + distrobox + a kitchen sink

        look_what_they_need_to_mimic_the_fraction_of_our_power.png

        • GuybrushThreepwo0d@programming.dev
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          I don’t consider myself a dumb person but I couldn’t figure out nix when last I decided to play with it. Theoretically it seems super interesting to me, but I really just can’t dedicate the time again now to learn that esoteric syntax.

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            The docs for NixOS aren’t good. Much knowledge is on many blogs but who knows them all?

            Having the OS defined declaratively is great but I also dislike the Nix language.

            Once it’s setup NixOS is great. Sharing configs with PC and laptop is awesome. Rollbacks are baked in.

            Going off the https://github.com/Misterio77/nix-starter-configs helped me gettung started.

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            The syntax is just the outer layer, the whole concept inside it is alien. It’s like a smartphone for a person who’s only seen books.

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        all the more reason to sunlight these old packaging formats and move to universal solutions like flatpak and nix