North Korea sends Putin tons of ammo. Europe can’t do the same for Ukraine - eviltoast
Pyongyang beats the EU in supplying shells to the guns in Ukraine.
  • CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org
    16·
    1 year ago

    Europe already send way waaay more. Also of higher quality and up to modern standards, not up to the standards of the 50s…

    • Redditgee@lemmy.world
      112·
      1 year ago

      The issue is that Soviet era crap can run dirty ammo. The west is in a real fight, trying to keep up. Once the industry spins up, it’ll be fine, but it takes time, which will cost Ukraine. The Russians, meanwhile, have essentially unlimited manpower. We didn’t do enough, to start with, and now it’ll be impossible, if the wrong people get into power during the elections. We’ve failed Ukraine.

      • MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
        5·
        1 year ago

        In 2010 North Korea shelled a South Korean island and about a quarter of the shells turned out to be duds. A lot of the rest proved to be extremly inaccurate. That is not to say they are not a danger, but they are most certainly much worse then new NATO shells. That is not even talking about range.

        The artillery situation already turned from Russian dominance to it being fairly balanced with Ukraine having a slight supremecy in some regions. It looks like highly accurate systems like PZH-2000 combined with artillery radar are slowly but surely taking out so much Russian artillery that they are depleting their stockpiles.

        As for manpower Russia has basicly a three to one advantage, but Ukranians seem to be more willing to fight and Russia has to pull them from the weakest in society. Otherwise Putin is threatend by a coup.

        Russia will start to have really big problems as soon as the oil price falls.

        • Redditgee@lemmy.world
          13·
          1 year ago

          Ukraine uses north Korean munitions, too. Most of the Ukrainian military still uses Russian stuff. The west didn’t suddenly drag Ukraine into this century. The Russians notoriously endure more BS than most countries. This war is destined to last a long time. The Russians are developing cheaper Shaheed Drones to overwhelm AA. Cities in Ukraine are going to have a bad time. It’s hard to be optimistic.

        • Redditgee@lemmy.world
          23·
          1 year ago

          Not sure, but Russia has already begun the process of turning factories, and reportedly even bakeries, into munitions producing facilities. Both sides are gearing up for a long war, and that, I think, is more beneficial for Russia. The west’s attention is already being dragged to the middle east, the manpower is heavily in Russia’s favor, and again… The next election could stop aid to Ukraine in a flash. It’s unreal, how hard we dropped the ball.