The more they censor, bigger it gets - eviltoast
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    I really appreciate these posts; this way I don’t need to actually go to Reddit to see what it’s looking like.

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    If you guys really wanted to let Spez know how mad you are you would STOP GOING TO REDDIT… Every time “fuck spez” shows up on this page it just means a bunch of people got on Reddit and boosted their numbers which makes them look more valuable to investors for the IPO.

    Do I really need to remind you that Spez or anyone else who works for Reddit COULD TAKE THIS DOWN AT LITERALLY ANYTIME THEY FEEL LIKE IT?

    Every time you go there and write “fuck spez” I’m sure he goes to sleep crying into the giant pile of money he sleeps on

    I’ll say it once more, if you want Spez to pay DO NOT GO ON REDDIT EVEN TO TELL HIM WHAT A FUCKING ASSHOLE HE IS, THAT IS LITERALLY EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO DO

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      Streisand effect. They keep deleting it. More people will help. Similarly, you telling people not to go on reddit, will make people go on reddit.

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        This is not Streisand effect, because the censoring happens on reddit. Anyone on that platform is already there.

      • ijeff@lemmy.world
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        Streisand Effect really only applies if they were making their own submissions about it. Replying to this one doesn’t really make the cut IMO!

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      This doesn’t make alot of sense to me. Doubt all that was created by Lemmy users that logged in to reddit-that’s simply Reddit users? Can’t be good for Reddit that this is going on such a large scale. And if nothing else … Great amusement lol

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        It only takes a few dedicated people with bots, but it does probably benefit their metrics.

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          Trying to convert those metrics into revenue is what started this whole thing in the first place. If they were so effective at turning any engagement to their advantage, we’d still all be engaging there via whatever third party app we were using before they got disabled.

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            Have you tried to actually go to r/place? You can’t even view the page on your phone unless you’re using their garbage official app. It’s definitely meant to try and increase app engagement

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      At this point it is big enough to gather the interest of the media whether it stays up or gets wiped, and investors watch the media like hawks.

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      See I think you have it twisted. We need a good mix of both.

      If site traffic plummets thats bad for Spez, if place is a giant “fuck spez” banner and it gets reported on by tech news and legitimate financial news its also bad for spez.

      If investors look at the blackout and the desperate scrambling for volunteers to mod subs, and a traffic decline AND the fact that the administration cant seem to do anything about some members turning place into a monkey shit fight at the zoo… Some of them might just realise that Reddit is a very risky investment.

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        I still say if this wasn’t exactly what the corporate management of Reddit wanted, then it would have been taken down by now though.

        Why else would it exist? They’ve already proven that they won’t hesitate to censor/destroy anything that’s not in line with their plans for the IPO, so it doesn’t make sense that this one thing would be beyond their control in any way whatsoever.

    • GustavoM@lemmy.world
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      Sorry, lad… folks really love the circlejerk and can’t/won’t stop doing it until it dies down. It’s kind of like “talking to a wall” at this rate.

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        The phrase “Sprich deutsch, du Hurensohn” (“Speak german, you son of a whore”) has evolved from an insult to somewhat of an insider meme in german subreddits. It was an answer to english comments flooding german subreddits and making communication difficult.

        And now we basically can call anyone a Hurensohn and it now counts as transformative art lol

      • Geo_bot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        The translation that everyone knows which came from Google translate is spez is a son of a bitch, but I think whoreson might be more correct

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    Ok but… Why the are people criticizing the reddit CEO on reddit and thereby USING REDDIT? There is no need to spread that he’s shit anymore at this point for everyone to see. Everyone knows by now. If people don’t approve of his ways, they need to boycott his platform. But if they keep participating on r/place, they are literally supporting him by using his platform?!

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      This is not a hot take, people are aware of the dissonance of using Reddit to complain about Reddit. But many folks are still upset but not upset enough to leave, or would like to leave but aren’t ready for places like Lemmy yet. It still needs work and polish before the average Joe will be comfortable here.

      So in the meantime I say go for it, having fuck spez be one of the main focal points of the whole canvas is incredible and sends a message. Yea most folks have heard about it by now but might be surprised users are still upset, or never really understood what the big deal was before but maybe they look into it now. Every bit of negative sentiment on Reddit about Reddit will slowly push users away. This is more than a bit of negative sentiment.

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        I’d also like to add that this might be good publicity (or negative for Reddit). r/place gets mentioned in the news too.

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        Yeah, we need to make it more similar to Reddit with things like flairs and a more intuitive browsing system

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        There are still people OOTL on reddit, and there are also people who have no clue who u/spez is. Until people start calling out Steve Huffman by name for being a greedy pig boy, it won’t have much mainstream effect. A significant chunk of reddit’s userbase is relatively young (last 5 years or so) and have very little in the way of context.

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      Roughly speaking, there are three different ways people handle when something they enjoy is changed in a way they don’t enjoy.

      The first simply cut their losses and move on, abandoning the thing. Nothing wrong with that. Things change and it’s okay to move on to something else. Companies that are causing harm to their user base should suffer the consequences of their decisions. Do this too much, though, and you may find you abandon your loves too easily.

      The second just accept and bear it. Arguably nothing wrong with that as long as you still enjoy it. Just be careful that apathy is not taken for permission for further change.

      The third will attempt to fight back in an attempt to preserve it. These are the type who still use Reddit even though they know it’s broken. They do not abandon it because to do so is to lose it entirely. They are trying to work within the system to change the system. Nothing wrong with that either, as long as you know when the battle is lost. They obviously don’t believe it has been lost yet.

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      Can’t talk for everyone, but for the case of rplace, I’d say propaganda.

      I know of people who still use reddit as they always do, and its likely because they don’t know reddit’s latest (and terrible) corporate decisions, so using rplace to spread a message that tells people something is wrong with reddit is the first step for these people to find the right path: leaving reddit.

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      Sabotaging the quality of reddit also hurts spez. Advertisers have been pulling out, ipo valuation is going down. If the super users make it a place people don’t want to go, they will stop going, and it will get worse. If they make life hard for the mods, some of them will say “fuck it.” And stop being mods because they will realize it’s not worth it.

      It’s not just about raising awareness

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      Hey, what better way to convey how people feel about Spez than to collaborate in such large numbers on his own platform to draw it out pixel for pixel…

      r/place isn’t gonna last much longer either, I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the people that collaborated on the Fuck Spez messages end up ditching Reddit more or less altogether after r/place is over.

      Honestly I can’t wait to see the final time lapse.

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    they should change it to fuck reddit because when spez gets fired, they will think the battle is won, which will lose them the battle

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    Continuing to rebel against the site by using the hell out of the site and driving its numbers up, I see. Have fun with that.

    I am curious about this IPO, because I want to see what a clownshow their cash flow statement is likely to be.

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      The move should be amping it up as much as possible before the IPO and than crashing it when a high IPO is set. Fucking over anyone who could believe they could wrench out some cash from it.

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      Country flags are the most popular thing in r/place, and country subs are big too. They can share a little of their clicks and reddit would think before pissing them off and erasing them. People kinda dislike when you erase the symbol of their country. It can also go into news.