- cross-posted to:
- samsung@lemdro.id
- cross-posted to:
- samsung@lemdro.id
cross-posted from: https://lemdro.id/post/2747324 (!samsung@lemdro.id)
As of today, Samsung is rolling out Android 14 to the Galaxy S23, S23+, and Galaxy S23 Ultra in regions including the UK and portions of Europe, such as France, Germany, Belgium, Finland, Poland, Portugal, Romania, and Spain. The update weighs in at 350mb for users who are updating from the latest beta to the stable update, but for those coming directly from One UI 5.1, it’s an update of over 3GB.
GrapheneOS had it’s first stable Android 14 release on October 8th, just 3 days after it the first release by Google. GrapheneOS is just superior. And it doesn’t include any spyware and unlike the Samsung ROM it doesn’t install TikTok on your phone…
They had the betas fairly early. I wouldn’t fault them for taking a bit extra time before considering it stable. They do have a suite of useful features like Dex and whatnot, along with being used in corporate environments with Knox, which could require some extra care.
I didn’t have Tiktok installed on my S23U. It was much better than older Samsung devices that had a ton of apps preinstalled.
I already responded to that in my other comment:
I really don’t mean to insult Samsung users or to make fun of Samsung software, but have you ever used Dex? In my entire time of using a Dex-compatible Samsung phone, I didn’t touch this feature once. It reminds me of what Microsoft did on their crappy Windows Phones with Continuum. Who would ever use something like that?
Dex is very useful if you’re in a hotel room and the TV has limited functionality except for basic screen casting. Also really good to show presentations without carrying a laptop. Used it multiple times and every single time it was actually useful. It’s a general thing with Dex is that you either have usecases for it or you don’t, nothing in-between.
The app recommendations on setup don’t bother me personally, as I skip that altogether along with a number of the Google apps. I consider this very different from coming pre-installed (TikTok has never been pre-installed on my international S21 Ultra nor Canadian S23 Ultra purchased from Samsung).
As for Dex, I don’t often use it but do on occasion. My work setup is based around a USB-C dock (which I have at the office, home office, and living room TV) and it drops into that perfectly without setup or delay. I considered it a gimmick before my current device. I found it too slow on the S21 Ultra but very smooth on the S23 Ultra. I’ll likely be switching over to a Pixel once a Dex equivalent comes to AOSP (assuming the artificial block on USB-C DisplayPort Alt mode gets lifted without root).
But that’s all an aside - whether the features are useful to you or not is based on personal need (I could live without the Knox nonsense given it’s a personal device), but it does mean it may warrant additional time in beta for bug testing. Being fast is good for security updates, but the same isn’t necessarily the case for feature updates.
TikTok was/is in the recommendations, but you can’t remove it. They will force you to install it at all costs. IMO this is fucking ridiculous.
Sorry, missed this reply while editing mine but thankfully this wasn’t the case for my Canadian S23 Ultra (purchased from Samsung). I agree though, it’d be ridiculous in whichever markets it’s taking place - but I think it’s unrelated to the time spent in beta.
My old Note 8 came with things like Facebook added as system apps. It was quite frustrating but things have since improved (at least where I am).
That’s good.
But after using GrapheneOS for almost a year, I will probably never use any other mobile OS. I don’t have to bother with preinstalled bloatware like Facebook or TikTok as well as spyware like Google Play services that I can’t remove. It’s also probably the most secure and private mobile OS available right now. It gives me back all control over my device and my digital life, it’s just awesome. It’s kinda like Linux in the sense that it empowers users to take back control over their systems, but it’s super easy to use, it’s basically Android without the crap and with improved privacy and security. You can use Google Play services if you want to, but they don’t run with elevated privileges, you can revoke any permissions (including network access) and uninstall them anytime you want to.
I use dex daily, for many hours. Moreover, for my use of dex, there is no alternative through any other piece of software or hardware, at all. I was happy with my unlocked OnePlus 9 Pro running Lineage, but went out and switched to an s21 ultra that I can’t even root, let longer install a custom ROM, specifically for dex and no other reason.
I have an unlocked phone from samsung and no Facebook or tiktok apps, that’s a new one I haven’t heard yet.
https://screenrant.com/tiktok-essential-app-samsung-install/ https://reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/tyepqa/samsung_now_installs_tiktok_as_an_essential_app/ https://reddit.com/r/assholedesign/comments/ufcszz/samsung_forcing_tiktok_on_me_claiming_its_an/
I also encountered that when I set up a Samsung phone for my dad. And I also got Facebook preinstalled on a Samsung phone a few years ago.
Also within those 3 days of porting, Graphene also fixed the disastrous profile bug that Google didn’t even fix, causing tons of data to be deleted. Just another common Graphene W
Huge fucking W for Graphene as always. It’s probably the only competent mobile OS developmemt team out there right now
@netchami @ijeff ironically, graphene had to do its porting through unofficial source releases and then finish the porting by comparing against the official A14 source; whereas Samsung, as a partner of google, had exclusive access to the unreleased source.
Well it takes more time if you also have to port all the spyware/bloatware to ensure that the user will always be spied on. Imagine the spyware failing, that would have disastrous consequences for Samsung, Google and their other data mining friends…