So this was me. - eviltoast

Honestly, MLs tend to do this with a lot of convos, I feel.

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    1 year ago

    I can agree with you there. That is reasonable and how opinions work. However the reasons listed are themselves still subjective since they do not apply to a wide array of situations. The problem arises more in attempting to impose that ideal on others who don’t hold it.

    That is reasonable to do when there are significant moral and ethical issues (CP, Bestiality, Revenge Porn, Rape, exploitatively media, inaccurate depictions, purposeful objectification and so on), but simply stating that sexual material as a monolith is entirely unacceptable would face immense backlash.

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        1 year ago

        I readily agree, exploitative and problematic depictions should be rallied against and serve little purpose in a progressive world. Thats why I stood in defense of the majority of drawn and written works, they avoid the common disgusting nature that something that the porn film industry perpetuates.

        What I am arguing for is also what the vast majority of AES countries have implemented. For example, in China, porn is completely legal. No one cares if you draw boobies or dicks, film yourself with your partner (consensually of course), or write about your (unproblematic) fantasies. Hell, there are Chinese version of Rule34 and other porn art based websites. However, the porn industry is extremely highly monitored and illegal, physical sex work is very rare and illegal, and you cannot “advertise with sex”.

        That seems reasonable and entirely achievable. It both accomplishes countering the negative affects like you mentioned, prevents exploitation, and does not attempt to do something entirely unachievable or unenforceable such as rallying against all sexual content.

        Also, another massive problem is who gets to decide what is or isn’t sexual content?