The Big Lie is expanding: Majority of Republicans now insist Trump never tried to overturn election - eviltoast
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      2020? They’re still big mad at fucking Hilary. Hatred like that has got to be bad for your health you’d think.

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        Many of the older ones still have a chip on their shoulder on what they think “the media” did to Nixon.

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          Nothing more than autocorrect and a lack of caring enough to edit it after it posted. Also playing on this phone: bad Capitalization, concatenating “and a” to all kinds of grotesqueries but usually Anna, and aggravatingly confusing there, they’re and their despite me knowing god damned well the proper one to use. It fucks up at least one word per sentence, sometimes every fucking one, and frankly I’ve given up on catching them all.

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      Literally the whole point is to sustain insanity until they purge the rest of us.

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      As much as I don’t agree with them it’s a bloody masterclass on how to reach a commincation overwhelmed public that are constantly bombarded by media and advertising. Throw in the Internet on top of traditional means and most humans can’t handle the volume and the ones that can are usually looking deeper.

      Where they are great at is cutting through the noise with the speaking at a grade 4 level, the sounds bite lies and name-calling get through and stick for those not really curious about more than what they already perceive as reality. Anything more is mental work, even bigger words let alone the ideas that have depth and more to them a simple one line description. Many just aren’t up for that task of going deeper unless its because of a painpoint like a bad event in their life, but even then they are looking for someone to blame as we are all right in our own minds. They are given easy outs on who to blame with cute nicknames and various other lies that explains why it’s not working for them.

      When the time comes and things have gone too far where we can’t go back, some of them will be like we didn’t vote for that or think of how it would turn out. For many its all been a big joke to laugh at.

      In some ways it’s too bad the older decaying generations are living much longer. Many stopped learning after high school and are still living in mentally in the places they first found love and their adult lives. As a result they see the world from that moment of time with that mindset and can’t handle the changes that every generation wants to bring to the table. Not saying those changes are right or are the right way to go forward, but the status quo isn’t working that well either for many despite how easy it is for many to stay there mentally.

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    That didn’t happen. And if it did, it wasn’t that bad. And if it was, that’s not a big deal. And if it is, that’s not my fault. And if it was, I didn’t mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.

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      The problem is it’s not against the law to be a bad person with bad opinions. Until you have bad actions towards certain people then you are in trouble. There are other groups of people that are totally immune to this scrutiny.

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        Until you have bad actions towards certain people then you are in trouble

        Bad people are working very hard to make those actions O K again.

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      I look forward to sitting down all the people who used gaslight incorrectly and pointing them to this spot in history to show them what it really is.

      But not really because ugh this sucks.

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    That didn’t happen. <——- (you are here)

    And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.

    And if it was, that’s not a big deal.

    And if it is, that’s not my fault.

    And if it was, I didn’t mean it.

    And if I did, you deserved it.

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      Reminder like the 5 stages of grief - these steps are not required to be in order.

      We’ve already tried.

      And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.

      And if it was, that’s not a big deal.

      And if it is, that’s not my fault.

      And if it was, I didn’t mean it.

      And if I did, you deserved it.

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      Proving intent is close to the bottom there… It’s all just an attempt to push the discussion back to the top.

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        For decades, the Republican strategy has been to project on to Democrats what Republicans have done or will do. They will try to steal the next presidential election or try a coup again. They may have learned from their previous mistakes, and may be more successful next time.

        I believe the next time the Republicans get the President, House, and Senate, we will not have any more elections (we will probably have rigged “elections,” like Russia or something). Republicans are already recruiting 50,000 people for their own “Deep State” (Project 2025) for when/if they win the presidency.

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      Until there are consequences for knowingly making and perpetuating election conspiracies, we can expect this after every single election where they don’t get their way.

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    That would be because they literally believe the opposite happened. They think Biden is the one who stole the election that Trump should have won.

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      It’s bizarre how common that sentiment is among the MAGA crowd. I’ve personally heard people say it and I know plenty of others who have had similar experiences with them. It’s always some variation of:

      “There’s no way Biden could have won! Everywhere I looked there were Trump signs and I ain’t done seen a single sign for Sleepy Joe nowhere. It don’t make sense!”

      Well yeah, Jimbo for one thing most people don’t make a political candidate their entire personality the way you bunch do. But it’s probably also got something to do with the fact that you haven’t left the podunk town you were born in since your Senior class trip to the state capital in 1976. Trump has always been massively unpopular. It’s why he lost the popular vote twice.

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        Probably also because a lot of normal Americans are not only voting against little d, but also don’t want to be a target of the violent magoos, so don’t necessarily broadcast their house as one voting for Biden.

        I’ve noticed these same rocket scientists seem to think that Biden was “campaigning from his basement” and that crowd sizes matter at all when it comes to casting ballots.

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          Crowd size probably is a good indicator of votes… in their little podunk town. Most people live in cities now

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    Obviously he didn’t, next thing you know people are gonna start claiming that Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia, when every prole knows we’ve always been at war with Eastasia.

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    hitler’s beer hall putsch was not a successful coup. But then there was this other thing he did after he was not sufficiently punished for the first attempt…

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      Or more recently (relatively) Hugo Chavez made a failed coup in Venezuela and later got elected and destroyed democracy there.

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      History repeats itself so much you could attach it to a generator and solve humanity’s energy problems

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    I’m gonna try to find a way out of this country. What an utter mess. Yikes.

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    Okay, whatever. They already inhabit a delusion, one that they can only escape on their own, so no big loss there. But “The Big Lie” is that Trump won the election and lost due to fraud, a claim with zero evidence despite their best efforts, and that’s a claim that isn’t growing in popularity.

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    This article spends a lot of time saying nothing much at all.

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      It literally could have just posted the poll results but instead it had to give us the entire history leading up to it.

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      I wouldn’t be so sure. This kind of rhetoric is exactly what had democrats complacent the first time Trump ran, and ended with Trump winning.

      It’s going to be a hard fought battle. Republicans obviously won’t go down quietly, and will use every single dirty trick in the book to try and win.

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      If by going down you mean doing ever escalating terrorism the yes.

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        By their own admission they are domestic terrorists

        Their words, not mine. They. They’re proud of it.

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      Even if they go down hard in the votes, there are many people that fully believe this, and are dead serious about it. So I think it is still important to be on the lookout, because I doubt they will just give up if they lose a vote again.