Would something like /r/2westerneurope4u be allowed here? - eviltoast

For those who don’t know: It’s a subreddit where Europeans shit-talk other European countries and could be considered racist.

  • SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net
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    1 year ago

    If not on Lemmy.world specifically, it’ll be allowed somewhere (even if you had to create a new instance to host it)

    The wonderful thing about federation is that everything is allowed, it’s just a matter of how much your neighbors want to tolerate you.

    I’d definitely subscribe, sounds like good fun.

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      1 year ago

      It’s a great sub on the old place, very funny - it’s joking, banter, only really racist in so far as making fun of national stereotypes (I am a Brit so would expect to get mocked about inability to cook, what a good move Brexit was, our tourists being the most drunk and sunburnt etc)

      I don’t see why anyone would object to it being made but it would definitely need good moderation because there are going to be people who take it too far especially with Nazi/neo Nazi/other political shit (basically it does have the potential to be racist if idiots who don’t get the joke join)

  • rustyfish@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    A community like that has to be heavily moderated. Most user will get the joke and will shit on each other in good faith.

    But it will always attract those who can’t understand sarcastic humor or those who will use the community to post outright racist shit. That’s what happened to the sub when I left and afaik the same happened to the Balkan version which had to be banned?

    Just sort out the trolls and bad actors and you will be fine I think.

    • awwwyissss@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      My experience with that sub on Reddit was that they were more serious than not. So basically it was garbage.

    • nebulaone@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      I don’t think I can manage that alone and guarantee that it doesn’t get out of hand. So I will refrain from creating a similar community.

  • Lizardking27@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Allowed? Sure.

    But that whole sub was super fucking cringe and I’m pretty sure not all the racism was in jest, so…

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        1 year ago

        I personally have not made that experience on there. The sub seems very pro-Europe. Then again I didn’t check by new, so my feed may have been filtered already.

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          No, it’s not like I checked it obsessively but whenever I did check in I definitely did not see anything that upset anyone, or that would be likely to upset anyone. I’d agree it’s a pretty pro-Europe sub.

          However my previous point stands that any bad stuff had probably been modded out because you would need a pretty dedicated mod team for a sub like this.

  • Rottcodd@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    There’s no central authority here who can allow or prohibit anything.

    The highest authorities are the owners of the individual instances, so if any of them choose to allow it (which I’m sure some would) then they will.

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      1 year ago

      @nebulaone is a Lemmy.World user & asked the question on a Lemmy.World community, I assume the question was directly asking if they’d be allowed to create the community on Lemmy.World.

      In the .World code of conduct, the only things that I can see that might be problematic are:

      • Bullies, trolls and disruptors are not welcome in Mastodon.world. We will moderate accordingly.

      • Do not engage in name calling, ad hominem attacks, or any other uncivil behaviour. Criticize ideas, never people.

      Since the concept of the sub as a whole seems like the above is kind of the entire point point, I think the rules bear mentioning, but as long as it’s not directly talking about specific people in the Fediverse, I think they’d be ok based on the written spirit of the rules, as long as proper moderating is done within the community.

      Worst case, OP would just need to find a new instance [as thread OP indicated] or spin up their own server.

      ETA: Sorry that you deleted your comment! I don’t think it really applied in this situation, but the info in there was still good!

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    1 year ago

    Only sub i miss from reddit… also the sub i got my perma ban from… You can make fun of everyone… except greeks… because then you are racist and needs a ban… Humorless fktards…

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    I’ve actually saved the name for a restart but without the racists. The sub was amazing until it turned to shit. I think it can easily work with the simple limitation of keeping the bickering directly Western European. No making fun of others allowed. Sucks, but it will remove racism.

    • nebulaone@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      with the simple limitation of keeping the bickering directly Western European

      In my opinion that’s even worse. It implies that others need some kind of special protection. Either everyone is fair game, or no one is. Of course it often is a thin line between friendly banter and actual racism.

      • lulztard@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Differing opinions. Having to remove non-western european targets is bad, being infested with racists is worse. I’ll glady limit myself to get rid of racists. I understand that others have different priorities.