I've noticed that lemmy as a whole is much more leftist than reddit (outside of political servers of course) - eviltoast

I can’t really think of a reason for that as Reddit is hated somewhat equally by “both” sides of the spectrum. It’s just something I find interesting.

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      Thankk you. The Overton window has been forcibly molded to what would’ve been the mid- Right when I was a kid growing up (90s-00s). This is because of Fox News. And then social media propagandists have tried ripping it to the extreme right, aka alt-right.

      I imagine a lot of what younger people think of as left/liberal was very much a moderate view point just a generation ago.

      So when you move to a new medium not propagandized yet (or at least a new venue like Lemmy) you might find that organic discourse is a lot more sane, tempered, and moderate.

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          Remember when people thought that a virus sweeping through the human race was politically affiliated?

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                Don’t tell me what to do.

                Of course they mock you for washing your hands! Telling them to wash their hands and wear masks so they don’t get COVID and fucking die, is still ‘telling them to do something’, and (/s) that’s terrible (/s). In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.

                Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).

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            Uhh, I don’t have a direct source , I think it was a German from the afd on twitter or a festival(Corona Demo), I don’t have an X account anymore and don’t want to create a new one to search it.

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        A president fomented a rebellion in the capitol of the United States to hold power. In the current landscape that statement alone makes me a leftist.

        The words them selves have been so changed and loaded that it’s nearly impossible to even write a post about what I want to say. The political discourse around the ‘right’ has driven conservative politics right out of the conversation.

        What passes for conservative politics is literally insane to me. There used to be some kind of agreement that there were problems and what the problems were. The main discourse was on how to solve the problems facing the America people.

        The main effort of the ‘conservative’ discourse is no longer around solving shared issues. It seems to be centered around the idea of legislating ‘solutions.’ The idea seems to be to weaken all of the government checks and balances so that this can be achieved.

        For an ‘classic’ conservative this is when I walk to keep checks , balances, voting rights, governmental oversight and freedom of religion. No conservative leaders are standing for this.

        The voices in the Gop that had that kind of sanity focus have been sidelined and are all of the much older generations. That last semi-effective voice I heard from the right was Arnold Schwarzenegger speaking out against Trump,nazis and anti-antisemitism.

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          Don’t tell me what to do.

          This is the actual Republican platform. They don’t care a whit about what we consider to be ‘problems’. The only thing they think is problematic is that they might not have power, and that we might have power. In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.

          Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).

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          It seems as though the only “problem” that the modern American right are concerned about is how to ensure they have unquestioned power and authority and that noone ever oppose them.

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            Don’t tell me what to do.

            You are absolutely correct. For Republicans, in the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.

            Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).

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      That is quite true as well. Lemmy gets Russian shills on Ukraine coverage worse than Reddit though. I don’t know if that would be tankies or Russian trolls.

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        I’ve noticed several pro-china shill accounts as well. Fortunately their attempts at astroturfing are made in China, very obvious and poorly done.

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          You have to appreciate their stupid confidence though. It’s entertaining.

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            Yeah, but I have to block it just to save my sanity. Saw one of them denying genocide and when called out I got a pretty collage of economic statistics about why the US sucks balls and China rules…I’m not even American.

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              I’ve blocked a few as well. No sense wasting your time with fantasy posters who conveniently ignore the issues of their own country. As if we don’t get videos of people being sealed inside apartment buildings, live meat markets, and other insanities. I’m American and, while some states want to erode history because they’re just as thin skinned as these Chinese propagandists, at least we can talk about slavery, trail of tears, Tulsa riot, and other negatives without threat of prison and hopes of social progress. Tiananmen Square though? Ha.

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      I didn’t see any specific “propaganda bots”, just bots regurgitating anything that was posted