Fact : what's really behind the Swiss E-ID - eviltoast

End of September, Switzerland will vote for E-ID. A big threat for our privacy as it will widely used for tons of new use cases.

Behind the government pitch of an “open source project, completely optional” hides big tech industry… Which will make it mandatory to access their services.

What are your thoughts on that ?

#Switzerland #Privacymatters

  • hubobes@sh.itjust.works
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    16 minutes ago

    You can not just say that it is a threat to privacy. Its design improves privacy as we finally can ID ourselves, where it has always been required, without actually giving our identity to online services.

  • Schlemmy@lemmy.ml
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    1 hour ago

    I think avoiding functioneren creep will be a certain issue.

    Belgium has such an e-id for nearly 10 years now. It works pretty good and acces to your personalia data is granular.

    If only age verification is needed, the request will only grant you birth date.

    Comanies that want to use it need to be vetted and their acces to your data is centrally regulated.

    https://www.itsme-id.com/en-BE

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    6 hours ago

    Am I witnessing democracy right now ? Wow it’s like people collectively decide about key topics, amazing. Go Switzerland !

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      55 minutes ago

      It’s not real democracy as the government motivate people to vote yes or no, and the government is completely corrupted. But yeah, it looks close to a democracy

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    8 hours ago

    I’m in favour of it.

    Contrary to the last time this was proposed, the government is in control of it instead of private corporations.

    This will also be an alternative to any of the current online ID verification, which involve sending photos of your ID, videos of it and videos of yourself to some random third party for verification.

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      8 hours ago

      My point of views is it will be used more broadly, in every services. So, even if it will be “optional”,there will be no option to choose not to use it.

      • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de
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        7 hours ago

        There is an article in the proposed law that e-ID is only allowed to be required for actions, where the law explicitly requires authentication.

        In this proposed law there is no article that explicitly forces services to require a ID

        So it only applies to services that used to require identification since a long time, lime buying alcohol, money laundering protection, some government stuff you had to do physically prior etc.

        But there is a new law coming which sadly did mot get a referendum, that requires age verification for 18+ media like video and games. But this law will take effect no matter if e-ID is accepted or not. So if e-ID was declined, you would have to scan the compete ID, do a liveness selfie and send it to private companies like Netflix to watch 18+ stuff there.

        With e-ID, you can proof you’re old enough without revealing name, gender, body hight etc.

        Please inform yourself correctly before spreading nonsense

        • harfang@slrpnk.netOP
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          52 minutes ago

          As you mentioned. There’s a new law coming without referendum. Today you’ll need it to guy alcohol. Tomorrow streaming After tomorrow access to public transport

          The open web forum in my picture exists. You can have a look. They dictate the rules. Its public information :)

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          7 hours ago

          Mm yes the law, a thing that can never be changed, that big tech definitely doesn’t have power to influence, and a concept that other countries definitely won’t be “inspired” by

          • Schlemmy@lemmy.ml
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            58 minutes ago

            Switserland is quite unique. They have referenda for big changes and are pretty conservative. Besides from that, they’re all armed and battle ready ;-)

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            2 hours ago

            In Switzerland, any law changes can be prevented by a referendum

            So, no, in Switzerland, the law can not just be changed.

            • harfang@slrpnk.netOP
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              51 minutes ago

              “Can be”, we know that citizens do not have criticism sense for technologies matters