I hate the “don’t punch Nazis” argument. It’s ignorant of what Goals they have for society and whitewashes them as “Free Speech Fanatics” when they aren’t. - eviltoast

A lil context for why I get so worked up about it more than most. My grandma lived in East Poland(current day Belarus) and when Nazis came, my grandma’s family fled east while her father fought. Long story short, the kids(grandma and siblings) were the ones that survived and were split up across the globe. That’s the Super streamlined version. So when Bill Maher says “oh I didn’t like Nazis either but you can’t punch someone who’s not doing anything” I want to punch HIM too. The implicit support is a lesson to learn from. Also why didn’t the US kill the last Nazi collaborator living in Queens,NY instead of deportation? Watch the part where Chuck Schumer explains the deportation if you wanna cringe. https://youtu.be/nW8sC9JA2Is https://youtu.be/KzW8NYeQbo4 These are the 2 vids that inspired this. I think the main reason people should workout is so that when they punch a Nazi, they don’t get back up.TL;DR: My grandma was affected by Nazis, now libs are “tolerant” of them.

  • VictimOfReligion@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    You cam argue that depending on context you may talk to them to letting it go (I did, I could make some children think about it and they really stopped being fascists, don’t know how much time, but at least something), but liberals will never understand context and how counter measures work… Unless it is for their own benefit.

    • Szymon@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 years ago

      Yes this is definitely true, although this is just against kids that don’t know the second thing about fascism and what they support. Against people further down the rabbit hole that generally believe this, you must be much more careful and it is a much longer process. With any fascist there’s also the risk of them reverting and damaging the left community.

      • ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.mlOP
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        2 years ago

        That’s what scares me. I don’t like Nazis and I’d love for them to be informed and learn what is really going on. But that leaves us with ex-fascists that we can only HOPE will treat Jewish or Trans/POC/LGBQ+/Feminist comrades with basic decency, but given their background, I wouldn’t blame those comrades for being at least a bit uncomfortable around them. Lord knows if I was Jewish and heard someone I knew was a nazi, it would change my opinion of them.