I’d love the slippery road of allowing you all to insist the others aren’t true believers, though. The end result of that logic is a nice big tax bill for all of you.
I’m sorry you’ll have to explain to me why that was funny.
Christians worship money so much they put God on the dollar bill but they still claim to worship Jesus. So if you’re a Christian lying like that must come second nature, anyways.
Maybe. If your beliefs run totally counter to Jesus’s teachings, then I’d say you aren’t sincerely Christian. I don’t think the people who preach the prosperity Gospel are real Christians. They just use the veneer of Christianity to hide what they really are.
Mate I’m sure there’s a whole pile of things in the Christian bible that you don’t follow. And I’m not even talking the gotcha things but like, actual teachings. Like, do you keep the sabbath? If you’re a woman do you follow all of thine husbands commands? If not am I right to say you are not a sincere Christian? If not, what are you? No it can’t work that way. If someone says they are Christian, they are Christian. You can say that Catholics are bad Christians, or that they’re going to hell, but you can’t say they aren’t Christian, because then no one is Christian. That’s what denominations are for.
That’s like me saying I know you don’t believe in God but you also murdered someone and I don’t like that so you’re not really an atheist.
Well, you’re doing the thing where you’re confusing fundamentalist Christianity with the entire religion.
Let’s start with Jesus’s teachings and go from there.
Now, obviously, no one upholds his teachings perfectly not even his own disciples. That’s not the standard. But I do think a fair standard is that you not directly base your faith around hate and violence. Not if you want me to regard you as a sincere Christian. In the same way that just because you say you’re vegan doesn’t make you one if you eat steak.
Sorry dude, if you believe Jesus is God then you’re a Christian. Everything else is denominations and arguments about true scotsmen. You don’t get to tell me I’m not one and I don’t get to tell you you’re not one. If someone doesn’t eat meat they are vegetarian, even if all they eat is processed junk. I can say they are a bad vegetarian, but so long as they don’t eat meat I can’t say they aren’t one at all.
Christianity is a pile of contradictions. If that’s the bar no one’s a Christian. Turns out if you choose to believe something based on faith despite all evidence you’re gonna find yourself with some weird company. If that makes you uncomfortable then you might just be on the path to joining reality.
I mean, if they believe Jesus was *Christ then that makes them christian yes?
If people say they are Christian then they are.
If a whole group does it then they are as well.
I’d love the slippery road of allowing you all to insist the others aren’t true believers, though. The end result of that logic is a nice big tax bill for all of you.
Technically, “Muslim” means “one who submits to God”. A Christian can say they are a Muslim with that logic.
It’s the same God. Outside looking in, they are hardly much different.
If a Christian says they are Muslim then they are. It’s all fake labels for worshipping the same fake being. There’s no rules here, just assholes.
I’m an Atheist, but of the plus one variety. I believe in one God. lolololol
I’m sorry you’ll have to explain to me why that was funny.
Christians worship money so much they put God on the dollar bill but they still claim to worship Jesus. So if you’re a Christian lying like that must come second nature, anyways.
I do what? I never knew I was worshipping money because some country put three letters on their currency
Sure. Tell yourself whatever you need to.
Wack. I never really cared that much about money. Maybe I’m not a true Christian because architect@thelemmy.club told me so on the internet.
Muslims believe that Jesus was the Christ.
Maybe. If your beliefs run totally counter to Jesus’s teachings, then I’d say you aren’t sincerely Christian. I don’t think the people who preach the prosperity Gospel are real Christians. They just use the veneer of Christianity to hide what they really are.
Mate I’m sure there’s a whole pile of things in the Christian bible that you don’t follow. And I’m not even talking the gotcha things but like, actual teachings. Like, do you keep the sabbath? If you’re a woman do you follow all of thine husbands commands? If not am I right to say you are not a sincere Christian? If not, what are you? No it can’t work that way. If someone says they are Christian, they are Christian. You can say that Catholics are bad Christians, or that they’re going to hell, but you can’t say they aren’t Christian, because then no one is Christian. That’s what denominations are for.
That’s like me saying I know you don’t believe in God but you also murdered someone and I don’t like that so you’re not really an atheist.
Well, you’re doing the thing where you’re confusing fundamentalist Christianity with the entire religion.
Let’s start with Jesus’s teachings and go from there.
Now, obviously, no one upholds his teachings perfectly not even his own disciples. That’s not the standard. But I do think a fair standard is that you not directly base your faith around hate and violence. Not if you want me to regard you as a sincere Christian. In the same way that just because you say you’re vegan doesn’t make you one if you eat steak.
Sorry dude, if you believe Jesus is God then you’re a Christian. Everything else is denominations and arguments about true scotsmen. You don’t get to tell me I’m not one and I don’t get to tell you you’re not one. If someone doesn’t eat meat they are vegetarian, even if all they eat is processed junk. I can say they are a bad vegetarian, but so long as they don’t eat meat I can’t say they aren’t one at all.
Well, my example was someone who claims to be a vegetarian and eats steak.
And I do get to infer someone’s sincerity based on whether they contradict themselves to that degree.
Christianity is a pile of contradictions. If that’s the bar no one’s a Christian. Turns out if you choose to believe something based on faith despite all evidence you’re gonna find yourself with some weird company. If that makes you uncomfortable then you might just be on the path to joining reality.