graphenos - eviltoast

Hey

I am planning on putting graphenos (or another os) on my pixel (currently using a pixel 6 but will have a pixel 8 shortly). I have a few questions about using then new os. Mainly are there any apps that don’t work. I use my phone for work being a OTP to logine daily etc is that still possible and reliable. There is one game I play on phone downloaded from the play store is that still possible? Lastly how do updates come can I download an update regularly from phone or do I have to plug into PC each time and know there is an update ready and how would you revert back to Google os if needed.

Sorry if that is a lot I just feel scared to take the “leap” into what is for me unknown. Thanks

  • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Considering the drama queen shenanigans of the lead dev and his acolytes, I would prefer using any other AOSP based custom ROM like CalyxOS or LineageOS. GrapheneOS is not worth the risk. Dev has added features in the past that would get a journalist or activist easily killed, like shutter sounds you cannot turn off.

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        1 year ago

        An excerpt from my exposé of GrapheneOS:

        DIVESTOS DEVELOPER BANNING ME ON MICAY’S ORDERS OTHERWISE HE WILL INITIATE A SOCIAL MEDIA HARASSMENT CAMPAIGN AGAINST DIVESTOS

        Yes, this happened, and this is my favourite part as far as everything GrapheneOS head/mods have done to date. As dramatic as it sounds, Micay in realtime, in DivestOS’ XMPP chatroom, was accusing me of the typical “harassment ringleader campaign” BS, and ordered DivestOS/Mull developer (these are his aliases) SubZer0Carnage/Tad/SkewedZeppelin that if I was not banned immediately, DivestOS and him would face social media targeted campaign and DivestOS will have to forcibly pull off any borrowed GrapheneOS code. DivestOS developer dusted his hands off me, since he does not like me apparently for liking some closed source software and he benefits off of the crybully. Also, unlike the crybully, I have never harassed or harmed anyone because I have a moral conscience to not be an abusive asshole on internet, so he will face no issues on my end.

        Screenshot 1: https://i.imgur.com/Al65uTZ.jpg

        Screenshot 2 continuation: https://i.imgur.com/mT8W9pa.jpg

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      You mean the guy that stepped down in march I believe it was? Shuttersounds was an android thing upstream I assume. GOS is leagues ahead of anything else.

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        1 year ago

        You mean the same guy who has lied over dozens of times over years about various people and groups, calling me a “paid agent sent by Chinese govt to destroy privacy community”, Techlore and CalyxOS evil people, developers of Bromite and Florisboard “neo-nazis” without evidence, Louis Rossmann being “complicit” in a (never proved) attempt to swat him, and so on? You mean this guy? https://old.reddit.com/user/lo________________ol/comments/1314x2x/why_did_i_do_this/

        Are we talking about the same guy and project, that I have extensively covered for years now, who crybullies every possible entity that does not worship him? This guy? https://old.reddit.com/r/privatelife/comments/13teoo9/grapheneos_corporate_foss_loving_witch_hunting/ The same person who blackmails people to ban certain people, otherwise he will unleash a faux harassment campaign against them?

        You mean the same guy who went to lengths of lying about a swatting attempt, never giving evidence for it in 5 months, and calling everyone asking for evidence complicit in his fake murder attempt, just to garner sympathy and fame for his GrapheneOS project? The same person, whose acolyte pet mod akc3n banned me a couple weeks ago on GrapheneOS sublemmy for asking exactly this, labelling reason as “abuse towards project members”?

        This is not what I expect out of a Lemmygrad comrade.

        Also, http://web.archive.org/web/20220502093708/https://old.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/pjl4bh/what_is_your_opinion_of_grapheneos_conforming_to/

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          Yea , I kind of just didn’t get into his rantings. GOS is still leagues ahead of anything else. Calyx comes in second. So shutter sound was something so bad you had to install open camera? And is no longer an issue. Just as that troubled troublesome dude. I really don’t give that much thought to stuff that doesn’t involve the actual OS. Rossman also likes the OS , you can have those things separated you know? The only time I had contact with micay was in the matrix chat , were I told him more or less to fuck off with his attitude regarding my questions so no I’m not a fan exactly.

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            You cannot trust someone who claims he is autistic and uses it as excuse to harm, harass and insult people, and never apologise for any of it. It has been said often by experienced software code writers that trusting the person who writes code is critical (cannot find that paper from 70s or 80s), even more than the code itself.

            No idea what is there in GrapheneOS that you praise so much. Sounds like you are a victim of marketing tactics. Almost the entirety of this AOSP fork is cosmetic changes, and the “security” stuff might as well not exist. https://web.archive.org/web/20220605185259/https://old.reddit.com/r/privatelife/comments/v4wkon/i_guess_people_still_havent_forgotten/iba48fc/

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                Ah yes, Techlore, CalyxOS, Louis Rossmann, FlorisBoard devs, Bromite devs and many others’ issues are my issues… I think you use GrapheneOS and are a victim of sunkcost fallacy. I know many such victims. You have a gambler mindset and will justify it with every excuse.

                Minimising attack surface is doable on basically any decent Android phone, hardened malloc has always been part of Linux kernel (and thus Android), Vanadium is just another fork of Ungoogled Chromium on mobile, similar to Bromite/Mulch and so on.

                Trusting him is like trusting an abusive violent partner in a relationship, thinking he/she will not beat you again. Also, he facilitates the use and abuse of anonymity via a lot of sockpuppet trolling, and even officially has ordered people to troll any critics. https://i.imgur.com/nhepoMJ.jpg And his fellow mod friend akc3n describe this harassment and trolling as “brand competitor analysis”. https://i.imgur.com/q2OefBw.jpg

                Him stepping down does not really mean shit. He censors every possible opportunity of being questioned by hiding himself behind his Discourse forum, his fellow mods actively silencing people on his behalf (as recent as 12 days ago), and he can just come out under a new sockpuppet name when he thinks the scrutiny will die down (he will have to wait until I die).