(Please see comments) Alternatives to Signal if they exit EU due to ending E2EE - eviltoast

Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work if Signal leaves the EU, but am also worried about its updates to patch vulnerabilities in a timely manner. I appreciate the help I am a “Jack of all trades and master of none” when it comes to these types of programs, but am also the go to currently in my unit since I am somewhat knowledgeable about exploits and attacks that can compromise systems would be great if there was an desktop as well (like Signal) and would also be nice if it was FOSS and auditable ( I know that’s kind of redundant ) I know it’s a tall order to ask but figured I would try. I really appreciate the help so much and hope I did things by the rules here and don’t get flamed if this has already been covered ( I searched but my skills with searching the fediverse is low

    • Squeak@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      19
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      What an awful name though. Why would you name a messaging app after herpes?

      • deepdive@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I’m sure you pronounce also those words wrong:

        • F.B.I and not fbi
        • L.E.D and not led
        • SpaceX and not spacex
        • SimpleX and not simplex

        Hope this helps 🙏

      • Joe Bidet@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        What an uneducated red herring! Simplex is not named “Herpes”… in “Herpes simplex”, “Simplex” is an adjective…

        “Dude! why would you name a messaging app after a latin adjective dude!”…

        Now can we resume talking about messaging protocols, and why Simplex is one of the most promising, way much better than Signal when it comes to privacy, as it enables communications without disclosing identity?

        • Squeak@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          The word simplex is not common in normal everyday English, unless you happen to be talking about the Herpes Simplex Virus.

          The association between Simplex and Herpes is not a hard one to make, as noted by all the other comments.

          I’d rather not discuss Simplex vs Signal with someone who tries to give off ‘big brain’ energy instead of realising the social norms of holding conversations.

          Not everything is literal my dude.

          • Joe Bidet@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            Fine. Then Signal for the English-native-speaking dudes who think herpes is funny bro, lol…

            Simplex for the rest of us, who truly value our privacy, aonymity, and not having to trust Amazon for the safety of our meta-data, lol dude

          • shortwavesurfer@monero.town
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Simplex is also used in communication channels as a single client to be able to speak at once as in amateur radio. A lot of internet links are duplex, where multiple machines can speak at once, such as Ethernet.

    • TheProtagonist@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      Although I doubt that Signal would leave the EU (or that this dangerous regulation would even become something that could ever be applied in practice), SimpleX looks very promising as a possible alternative.

      However, it would also mean that you have to convince all your contacts to make the move, too - which was already difficult when I told them to install Signal additionally to WhatsApp, which is virtually on almost every device.

      • FarLine99@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        it won’t be easy, yes. but I think that with Signal everything will be ok 🙂