What’s up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?
It’s not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.
Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.
Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?
Edit to add: Oh, that one was already in my previous comment. Sorry for repeating myself. Here’s a talk by Parenti to summarize.
Tell me you didn’t engage with the material I provided without telling me you didn’t engage with the material I provided. Here’s another: Michael Parenti » To Kill a Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia
I engaged with it. It’s saying the Serbs were responding to a proxy war initiated by the CIA when they were literally just exterminating Bosnians.
You can give me your summary but I’m not reading any more dubious links on the matter, especially when link bashing is being used as a rhetoric device to prevent your argument being challenged.
And again:
Do Ukrainians have a right to defend themselves from Russian imperialism?
I’m “link bashing” because I’ve already covered this territory—with sources/evidence—several times on Lemmy, though not nearly as many times as the Ukraine war.
Okay? No one is saying otherwise.
Again no one is saying otherwise. As for Russian “imperialism,” I already covered it elsewhere in this very post, and dozens of times before.
I’m very confused now. Because it seems like we actually agree with each other then and I’m not sure why we’re fighting.
I think NATO sucks, but I also think Russia does. The only thing I care about in this situation is Ukrainian autonomy.
If you believe Ukraine has a right to self defense and self determination then we’re in agreement.
Notably, you seem fine with Ukraine invading Iraq and Syria.
Also notably, you do not seem to care about Russia’s autonomy, Syria’s autonomy, Iraq’s autonomy, etc.
Do Iraq, Iran, Russia, Syria (before your invasion), Palestine, Libya (before your invasion), Afghanistan, non-occupied Korea, etc. have a right to self-defense and self-determination?
When do you think Ukraine invaded Iraq? You mean the Soviet union controlled my Moscow?
In the 2000s. The Ukrainian troops were officially congratulated by the US.
Haha.
At least study a little bit about this topic.
You probably also think that the most successful anti-colonial force that massively improved people’s lives not only domestically but also abroad by aiding liberation movements (in their fight against you) was somehow bad.
Tankies gonna tank.
Hope you pass the purity test when they come for you.
Going to note that you didn’t dispute anything of what I brought up (and you did not even acknowledge the fact that you have been supporting Ukraine invading Iraq), but just decided to make a personal attack against me. This is despite you being shown to not have a good understanding of history and of current events that you speak confidently about.
People who literally support their tanks crushing independence of countries in Africa, Asia, and the Americas sure do love to say that to people who oppose colonialism and nazis, as if that is somehow bad. All while not being able to refute any of the ‘tankies’ claims. The word ‘tankie’ just means ‘a person who is correct’.
Going to briefly elaborate on the USSR, though: off the top of my head, the USSR not only successfully resisted the Lebensraum and put an end to the Holocaust, it also aided the liberation movements in Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Mozambique, Angola, Afghanistan, etc., and the USSR improved lives domestically with things like guaranteed housing, guaranteed access to education and elimination of illiteracy, guaranteed access to healthcare, world’s first achievements in the sort of women’s rights that we take for granted today, 60% increase to life expectancy (relative to the pre-WW1 statistics) in the first 30 years of its existence, elimination of famines that were common in the Russian Empire, and so on.
You don’t really have an argument for why the USSR was supposedly bad, and it’s time to admit that to yourself.