I agree with many of the points but, fucking hell, we get it - eviltoast

Every country has problems. Maybe let’s shit on those too.

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      I AM a European.

      I’ve never heard any German claim that this should be a good country by any means.

      “We’ve kinda got some industry” - “yeah, but china got more”

      “We’re relatively good at healtcare and social security” - “have you ever even heard about nordic countries?”

      “Uh, freedom of religion?” - “france does it better”

      “We’re claimed to be exact and punctual?” - “No, that’s the swiss.”

      “Beer and Bread?” - “That’s more like the polish?”

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        This is an obvious bad example because German nationalism died with Hitler. Of all European countries, Germany hates itself the most.

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          German nationalism died with Hitler

          Oh, how I wish this to be even remotely true!

          so you claim that portuguese run around, claiming theirs is the best country?

          How about the austrians? Irish? Scotts? Danish? Polish? Czech? Croats?

          Note: I wouldn’t ask about Netherlands or nordic countries (because imho IF they’d claim that, then they just might kinda have a good point) or the swiss (they can claim similar, I just wouldn’t follow their reasoning in the slightest).

          Well, and there’s the English too…

          But still: what is a good example in your opinion?

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            It is remotely true. Waving German flags at soccer games was essentially non-existent. Germans are more likely to identify as European rather than German, compared to other EU nations. If you ask Europeans “is your culture superior” people like Greeks say yes but people like Germans say no.

            A good example would be the UK or France .They believe they are top dogs but, by US standards, they are impoverished.

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              They believe they are top dogs but, by US standards, they are impoverished.

              o.0

              No, they are not.

              Median wealth is way better. and that doesn’t even take into account that you can get way better housing/healtcare/whatever for less money.

              What are you even talking about?

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              Huh?

              Soccer games are like the only* socially accepted events where you can proudly bring out a german flag without looking like a nationalist. At world championship the whole city is a sea of black-red-gold.

              I’m quite surprised.

              Tho I’m not a soccer fan and therefore don’t know how that looks abroad.

              *(hyperbolic; guess if we think more than a few seconds we could find more, nut that’s not that important of a point here)