The gamers have returned fire - eviltoast

Bungie recently won a lawsuit against a gamer who was sending an employee death threats.

    • jontree255@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      You’re not wrong but also people shouldn’t be harassing employees for shit that is likely out of their control.

      • Cypher@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        So who exactly should criticism be directed to if not the community engagement staff? This sounds like a company passing the buck to… no one.

        That’s not to say criticism should ever include threats of harm or personal abuse.

        • JonDorfman@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Why did you see “don’t harass employees” as “don’t offer criticism”? You can pretty easily say “I don’t like X about this game,” or “change Y seems like a step in the wrong direction” without harassing anyone.

          • Cypher@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Harassment is a fairly broad term I guess.

            Some people would view repeated criticism over a single issue as harassment, others wouldn’t view it as harassment until it has “crossed a line”.

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              1 year ago

              Criticism is when you say what is wrong with something, and how to possibly improve it. Obviously, you don’t need to repeat it 500 million times.

              Real harassment is when one literally sends death threats. That’s not ok at all. It’s a game, go touch grass is what I’m saying.

              As for the rest of you who don’t send death threats, your all good people and I wish you a happy day:)

              • Cypher@lemmy.world
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                1 year ago

                When someone doesn’t listen to feedback or worse, derides them for even providing it people tend to get upset.

                I have not condoned death threats, other threats of violence or harm and don’t intend to.

                I don’t even play Destiny (1 or 2).

                I’m just voicing my opinion that there’s a pattern between devs who believe community criticism is beneath them and people working themselves into a frenzy.

  • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    A very close friend of mine works as a community facing employee for a large game company and as part of their job they have to make decisions that will inevitably make people angry. They’ve been very concerned lately about getting doxxed and harassed. Folks online often forget the human on the other side.

    • jontree255@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      He has thicker skin than I and I hope for the best for him. I don’t think there’s an amount of money you could pay me to be a CM for a game company.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah, I love gamers, I love games, but for whatever reason the bad eggs of the bunch are super bad eggs.

    • jontree255@lemmy.worldOP
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      7 months ago

      Harassing people with death threats and other violence is never okay. Not happy with the game? Don’t play it.