So when Israel was given it’s land via the Balfour treaty both sides were happy for a while. Yea some were pissed off but didn’t act out.
Then when Israel got settled and comfy they decided to try to grab the rest of “their” land even though this broke the treaty.
Since then the land grab has gotten blatant and they’ve created their own laws to justify it, to the point that even me saying this is seen as antisemitism even though it is totally truthful.
Well done Israel, what did you think would happen.
The ICC still want a word too!
Apartheid is still alive.
Yeah. Israel became a state because the white nations agreed while the brown nations didn’t.
So we all know who got their way.
The only people who should be surprised are those who thoughts this conflict would end there.
Victim blaming…
The victims are the Palestinians.
I believe the Israeli civilians being killed and held hostage would also qualify as victims here.
Yeah, we should separate the citizens from the government. Unless there really is overwhelming support from the citizens for the actions of the government. I don’t know about that situation over there.
That way, you can blame the Israeli government for the deaths of the citizen, singular?
Exactly. The victims are the Palestinian people and Israeli people who can’t stop those in charge from doing what they are doing. The vast majortiy of victims that disproportionately suffer more are Palestinians, a clear consequence of continued Israeli aggression and occupation, police-protected settler violence, and relentless land-grabbig. Israel put itself, it’s citizens, and all the Palestinians under the bus by committing apartheid.
Yeah to an extent but the population support and enable their apartheid state, land grabbing and murderous policies. These are the consequences. I don’t want to see anyone dead but this isn’t a surprise and I stand with Palestine.
Oh yea right sorry for giving you the obvious blatant truth!
Palestinians are defending their home. Good luck to them.
Never seen rape and beheading of children to be part of “defense” plan of any country.
Israel has been trying to inflict genocide on the Palestinian people.
You do realize there’s no “trying” part if they wanted to? Just look at previous conflicts between these two sides and see how disproportionate the power is.
Israel has killed and displaced millions of Palestinians.
well, russia. that’s the kind of company these brain dead commenters like to keep
I suppose your have a point.
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Good luck to the Palestinian freedom fighters! Apartheid must end!
You are cheering people that have been gunning down civilians at a bus stops. Try to take a moment to really reflect on that some time.
No, this doesn’t mean I support Israel, before you ask.
I hate that people make this into a binary. I don’t support either side here, I just hate the people killing civilians. And between this Hamas attack and Israel’s airstrikes on civilian areas, there is no moral side to take. Bloody butchers lead both of them.
We need a Palestinian group that decries Hamas and stands against any violence to Israeli civilians, and we need an Israeli group that decries their conservative government and stands against any violence to Palestinian civilians. Until either side pledges to protect both groups of civilians, there will be no progress. Only blood.
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War is hell, but few wars have ever been more justified than this one.
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No, fuck Hamas. Love for Palestine.
Innocent civilians are dying on both sides, but long-term it’s always the innocent Palestinian people who suffer most when the nationalists on either side start shooting. The skew in the death toll over the long course of the Israel-Palestine conflict is incredibly one-sided.
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Hamas won a plurality (44%) - not a majority - of the votes in the last elections in 2006. They subsequently launched a coup, sought to purge their political opponents and have ruled the Gaza Strip as a de facto dictatorship ever since. The people of Gaza have spent the last 17 years suffering from the combination of a Hamas dictatorship and a full land, sea and air blockade by the Israeli military.
So to answer your question: Hamas gunmen put Hamas in power.
Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem remain occupied territories under international law since the 1967 Israeli conquests.
44% is more than hitler had…
What a weird attempt at logic.
Strange, but true: Israel created and empowered Hamas.
Oh you come with logic?!? How dare you!
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Some people are just hardline pro-Israel no matter what.
You can spot them because they make comments like this. Not an ounce of nuance in their brain because that goes against the tribe.
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White people killing brown: 👍
Brown people killing white: 👎
Who killed more innocent people: Israel or Palestine?
Israel is an apartheid state.
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Who has ruled over the other with military occupation, routinely unhoused, tortured, killed and terrorized the other for 70+ years?
Who decided they wanted the land and proceeded to ethnically cleanse the towns to make room for their own people?
Don’t turn a blind eye.
Ok and why did Israel have to occupy land? Who declared a war?
Israel began its occupation in 1947 when the soon-to-be state began ethnically cleansing the lands - removing the Indigenous locals out of their homes and villages. Yes - this sparked the 1948 war, which resulted in even more land being occupied. This issue did not begin with the 1948 war.
You will not get a response. Captain patriot probably just smashed his keyboard into dust.
That’s okay, I’m not trying to get a response! Just trying to make sure people think about this with less bias.
*or phone!
Would you hold Israel to the same standard? They invaded the Palestinian territories in 1967, have held them under military occupation for over half a century since and in that time have killed rather a lot more Palestinian civilians than vice versa.
But sensible people do not use that as a pretext to say a blanket ‘fuck Israel’, because it is unhelpful, unconstructive and racist to blame an entire people for war crimes committed by members of their military. But I’m curious if you apply your logic on Palestine to the other side too?
Can’t wait to see your posts about Israel’s retaliation and all the innocents they kill.
You… will post about them, right?
Yes.
