Philosophy meme - eviltoast

Not sure why this got removed from 196lemmy…blahaj.zone but it would be real nice if moderation on Lemmy gave you some sort of notification of what you did wrong. Like an automatic DM or something

  • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I can’t really say about all kinds of suffering, it really depends on context.

    It’s like asking if all love is good. There are so many situations I can imagine it could be good or bad or even neutral.

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      1 year ago

      With out of context I mean in it’s nature. Imagine you have to cut off someone’s leg who doesn’t like pain and won’t profit from experiencing it during the amputation now or in the future, is it better to do it in the way it causes the most pain or the way it causes less pain, when it leads to exactly the same result?

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        1 year ago

        Oh in that context it’s absolutely worse. And in a complete vaccum where no action or even existence precedes or continues from that one moment of suffering it’s also bad.

        Though because such a vacuum does not exist in reality suffering can be good. For example choosing to suffer to bring about some good outcome would be good. Or suffering that builds character for some future event. Also some forms of suffering are enjoyable to some people.

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          1 year ago

          Yeah of course. But that doesn’t change that it’s objective. I don’t mean suffering just as in physical pain.

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            1 year ago

            Yea, the fact that there are a billion things that can be considered suffering makes it even more subjective since one form of suffering may be someone else’s enjoyment.

            How is suffering morally objective?

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              1 year ago

              If you hit two people with a stick, one enjoys it and the other does not, than clearly one is suffering the other isn’t. That’s not morally objective it’s a biological reality.