[video] Cargo trams (not trucks) should be how we move goods in our cities - eviltoast
  • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Have you ever been in a city? Practically every street has stores that need deliveries. Does every street get a tram track?

    • Sarie@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I think a good use would be to go from an industrial area to another, or to a cargo hub.

        • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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          1 year ago

          whatever is convenient, for short distances (shops right next to where the tram stops) you can probably just straight up use the same pallet trucks used to unload it (they’re really quite speedy and flexible), for longer distances cargo bikes.

    • Repple (she/her)@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Trains to distribution center, pneumatic tubes from distribution center to every home and business.

      I want my green steampunk future cities.

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      1 year ago

      Practically every street has stores

      Mmh in my experience actually not. Very distinct streets in the centre are shopping streets (with residential on the higher floors). Many neighbourhoods are just residential.

    • anonymous@lemmy.world
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      I believe the tracks for the long distance trains should go to warehouse or distributions whatever then cargo bikes would deliver them locally.

          • Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            I love how that clip has multiple shots of trucks absolutely full of boxes, while making the case for a vehicle that could fit inside the truck as it’s replacement.

            • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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              I think you just missed the point entirely. You don’t actually have to load up as many items in a cargo bike, because it’s inherent advantages in urban contexts more than makes up for its inability to load up as many items.

                • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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                  1 year ago

                  They are spelled out clearly in the video:

                  • Bicycle deliveries can utilize bicycle infrastructure and not get stuck in traffic
                  • Bicycle deliveries can at times navigate around traffic
                  • Bicycle deliveries have an easier time parking at the point of delivery
                  • Bicycle deliveries for obvious reasons require less fuel
                  • Bicycle deliveries require less capital cost, as their vehicles are cheaper than their counterparts
              • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                1 year ago

                If I own a grocery, it’s going to take a hell of a lot of bike trips to and from the warehouse to restock every day. Or I could employ an army of bikers. Or one truck.

                • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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                  Ok, so deliver food via truck. Choose the appropriate means of transportation for each type of last-mile delivery. The 200 gram Amazon package most certainly does not require a heavy truck to deliver.

                • anonymous@lemmy.world
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                  1 year ago

                  It seems I missed the point. I had deliveries in mind where the truck is mostly empty most of the time. Restocking with a truck or cargo tram (depending on the environment) would make more sense.

    • nxfsi@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      The answer should be yes. In fact we should dig up the bicycle lanes to make way for tram tracks.