My understanding is that mods can silently remove content from their subreddits, but it will still show up in your comment-history. However, admins can silently remove content and it will NOT be in your comment history. Well, when I’m logged out, I noticed some of my comments were “removed” but when I’m logged in they show up. Looking at the comments more closely, I don’t believe they broke any rules…at least not site-wide rules. I received no notification that they were removed either.
Further, these comments ALL related to the Trump/Zelensky interview. I get the need to moderate online communities, but there’s something particularly dystopian about quietly censoring someone for expressing political-speech you don’t like, and doing it in such a way that they (theoretically) don’t even realize they’ve been censored (if they’re not weird paranoid fucks like me). You’ve just secretly put a bubble around them, all for the crime of political speech you don’t like.
Here are some screenshots to verify what I’m saying:
https://i.imgur.com/kff8INQ.png
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And so the same thing happened when I posted this exact post (above the “…”) in another sub on Reddit…one I participate in regularly. And here’s how that looks:
That’s actually very unethical, no matter where it’s done.
You should either let someone’s effort be seen, or prevent them from making the effort in the first place.
But having them waste their time by doing the effort, and then having it not be seen, in essence fooling them, is very unethical, and intellectually dishonest.
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I’m a huge fan of Lemmy’s public mod logs. They are crucial for keeping miderator action above board and if someone is power tripping the evidence is there.
I am as well, truly. Sometimes it’s even just entertaining to go read those logs for a bit, to see how people are, and what gets them or their comments banned.
If anything my problem with Lemmy is an under/lack of moderation, but that’s neither here or there for this discussion.
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The point of shadow banning is to waste the time of bots.
And not to censor human beings? At all?
That makes no sense. Detecting shadow banning can be automated.
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It was originally for bots. Yes.
Well would you expect someone who wanted to censor others to come out and explicitly say the real reason is because they want to censor others?
No, they’ll say things like because it’s the help combat bots. We’ve all seen how well that works.
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Sure, now. But it was made to circumvent bots. To increase the amount of trouble it is to spam. Don’t know what you’re trying to argue here.
I got 2 nicole posts in one day here