‘Sputnik moment’: $1tn wiped off US stocks after Chinese firm unveils AI chatbot - eviltoast
Trump calls emergence of DeepSeek a ‘wake-up call’ amid doubts about sustainability of western artificial intelligence boom
    • MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      3 days ago

      Cheaper AI isn’t the pop we want. We want companies to stop trying to use AI for every god damn thing it is terrible at. We don’t want cheaper AI that’s just going to be baked into more stuff.

      • LoamImprovement@beehaw.org
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        2 days ago

        I mean, I do want cheaper GenAI in the sense that I want people to see that it’s dollar store crap that’s not worth the electricity to run the servers to make it and give it up like they did the fucking Juicero and every other smart appliance a couple years ago. God forbid I hold my breath and people wise up and understand that these people are all grifters looking to tape a horn to a horse and sell their “unicorn” to FAANG or whatever the equivalent is these days, I can’t be assed to rewrite the new poob acronym.

        • MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          AI isn’t the enemy, though, and we aren’t the ones being grifted—that would be companies who think they can make tons of money replacing people with AI. It’s a reasonable useful tool/fun toy/interesting curiosity in certain circumstances. And for an end user it doesn’t use any more power than a video game. But it’s a tool for craftsmen and folks who understand the limitations, not a replacement for workers. And it sure as hell isn’t a production feature. Anyone looking to make money baking AI into consumer products is an idiot and going to lose their hat.

    • artificialfish@programming.devEnglish
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      3 days ago

      Nah, o1 has been out how long? They are already on o3 in the office.

      It’s completely normal a year later for someone to copy their work and publish it.

      It probably cost them less because they probably just distilled o1 XD. Or might have gotten insider knowledge (but honestly how hard could CoT fine tuning possibly be?)

  • tangentism@beehaw.org
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    2 days ago

    Last year Dario Amodei, the co-founder of leading AI firm Anthropic, put the current cost of training advanced models at between $100m and $1bn.

    So his estimate is so vague as to be fucking useless.

    How people haven’t seen through this emperors new clothes nonsense & grasped that these are the bullshitting self appointed druids of the neo religion.

    That bubble they keep mentioning is where they’re all getting high off their own farts

    • Midnitte@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Tbf, that could also just be describing the variability of models.

      I’d imagine there’s a difference in cost for training Dall-E 3 and GPT-3.5 for example.

  • arsCynic@beehaw.org
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    2 days ago

    ELI5 request on lemmy: "You see, dear grandchildren, your grandfather used to have an apple orchard. The fruits were so sweet and nutritious that every town citizen wanted a taste because they thought it was the only possible orchard in the world. Therefore the citizens gave a lot of money to your grandfather because the citizens thought the orchard would give them more apples in return, more than the worth of the money they gave. Little did they know the world was vastly larger than our ever more arid US wasteland. Suddenly an oriental orchard was discovered which was surprisingly cheaper to plant, maintain, and produced more apples. This meant a significant potential loss of money for the inhabitants of the town called Idiocracy. Therefore, many people asked their money back by selling their imaginary not-yet-grown apples to people who think the orchard will still be worth more in the future.

    This is called investing, or to those who are honest with themselves: participating in a multi-level marketing pyramid scheme. You see, children, it can make a lot of money, but it destroys the soul and our habitat at the same time, which goes unnoticed by all these people with advanced degrees. So think again when you hear someone speak with fancy words and untamed confidence. Many a times their reasoning falls below the threshold of dog poop. But that’s a story for another time. Sweet dreams."