No Longer About Kids: Florida Judge Allows Trans Adult Ban For Large Swaths Of Care - eviltoast

Anti-trans organizations have said that their position against gender affirming care center on “protecting kids.” Now, a Florida judge has allowed them to proceed with their next target: trans adults.


Several weeks ago, a federal judge in Florida halted a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender youth, declaring it likely unconstitutional. Yet, transgender adults were also heavily impacted by the law: 80% of gender-affirming care providers for trans adults in the state were forced to stop. Consequently, many found themselves forced to flee the state, temporarily or permanently, in order to access care. Those forced to stay clung to the hope that the provisions targeting them might also be overruled. However, those hopes suffered a setback when the 11th Circuit Court determined that discriminating against transgender individuals in healthcare would be allowed, at least in the short term. Relying on this verdict, the Florida Judge Monday declined to block the sections affecting trans adult care. Now, the precedent has been set for adult care bans, a stark contradiction to some anti-trans activists’ assurances that their sole aim was to “protect children.”

Earlier this year, Florida passed SB254. The bill did not only prohibit gender-affirming care for transgender youth, but also casted stringent requirements for care on trans adults. Specifically, the laws bars nurse practitioners from administering care and mandates that providers distribute inaccurate medical forms, laden with misleading narratives, suggesting treatments are experimental. This was a substantial change, as the vast amount of trans adult care is provided by nurse practitioners. A representative from a clinic in the state, SPEKTRUM Health, estimated that 80% of such care would be affected. Further, the new informed consent form dictates a pre-requisite of “social support” before a trans individual embarks on care, despite many trans adults losing social support from their families after they transition. Though the initial discussion centered on the effect of the bill on trans youth, trans adults across the state suddenly saw their prescriptions dropped by their providers as a result.


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      • GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com
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        Hy would creating a system that does not respond to the desires of its population be good? What if it becomes obvious that socialism isn’t working or if change is needed? The freedom to replace the government is critical.

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          Hy would creating a system that does not respond to the desires of its population be good?

          How is crushing far right dissent not keeping with the desires of the population?

          What if it becomes obvious that socialism isn’t working or if change is needed?

          Then you modify socialism. As socialists keep doing rather successfully. Socialism is an iterative process after all.

          The freedom to replace the government is critical.

          If you started advocating the overthrow of your government what would happen to you?

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            If the people want a different system what is the justice in forcing them to maintain a system that does not work for them? Why should the jackboot of the socialist state crush the desires if the people should they desire something new?

            Nothing would happen to me if I advocate for the overthrow if Im not advocating for violence. In the USA there have been communists running that advocated the removal and replacement of the government. There even is a specific right to completely replace the government in the constitution.

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              If the people want a different system what is the justice in forcing them to maintain a system that does not work for them?

              But they don’t, so there is justice in maintaining that system against a small amount of dissidents and foreign sabotage.

              Nothing would happen to me if I advocate for the overthrow if Im not advocating for violence.

              Historically this is how black communists get bullets and white communists get prison cells.

              There even is a specific right to completely replace the government in the constitution.

              And remind me of the mechanism, and how it doesn’t involve forces that are invested in the status quo?

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                In my hypothetical situation they do want the change and right now you cannot even suggest that due to the authoritarian structure of the state.

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                    Ok and what if down the road the government gives way to severe corruption and no longer represents the people and they want a change?

                    The fact is Cuba is authoritarian because the mechanisms to remove the government do jot exist and the people have no say in the direction unless they agree with the state.

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              Nothing would happen to me if I advocate for the overthrow if Im not advocating for violence. In the USA there have been communists running that advocated the removal and replacement of the government. There even is a specific right to completely replace the government in the constitution

              Pure galaxy-brain centrist

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                We literally have had candidates suggesting this who were not killed.

                Sorry to burst your bubble but it is legal and possible in the USA.

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                  No one cares if you have the right to impotently suggest it. If you actually make a serious attempt to do it though you’re getting Fred Hamptoned.

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                    Fred Hampton advocated violent revolution which has nothing to do with why he was murdered. Hampton was murdered because he effectively organized non-white neighborhoods and the LEO couldn’t handle that.

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                What if the government ceases to be socialist due to corruption should the people not be able to correct that?

                What if they decide they don’t want to be socialist because it doesn’t work for the majority?

                Authoritarianism is never a positive situation in governance.

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                    No it’s a well defined concept in political philosophy. If you can’t speak against the government, you cannot suggest changing the type of government, or if power is trapped within hereditary lines then the state is authoritarian.

                    Whether the authoritarian system is worse than a non-authoritarian state is a different matter. Cuba has benefitted significantly from their authoritarian government as has China and Vietnam. Authoritarian does not always mean the government is bad it just means the population is less free which they might not care about.