Increasing number of Canadians want to reconsider ties to monarchy, survey suggests - eviltoast
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    1 year ago

    Not according to the article you posted.

    Just over half of respondents, at 51 per cent, agreed with the statement that the monarchy in Canada is outdated, does not have a place in the 21st century, and “we have to get rid of it.” In comparison, 33 per cent said the monarchy is an important part of the country’s history.

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    On the other hand, the number of people who believed the monarchy “remains a positive symbol for Canada” rose by four points, to 52 per cent from 48, compared to 2021 data.

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      That seems to back up what I said? 51 percent, a majority, don’t see any reason to continue on with what they see as an outdated institution.

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        If it doesn’t affect anything, why the sentiment “we have to get rid of it”, arguably those would be the people that think they still hold power.

        And even more than that amount see it as a positive….

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          We have to get rid of it because it’s entirely unjustifiable that a ‘royal’ family exists regardless of the actual power that they wield. We’ve long moved past the concept of divine right of kings, there is no ethical basis for this institution. Those are the grounds on which it must be got rid of. That they are powerless money sucks that do nothing for us is just the cherry on top.

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            … the monarchy holds no power, parliament does.

            This is the exact thing I was talking about, say with me, the monarchy has NO POWER and is nothing more than a figure head. They’ve moved past the divine right of the “king” decades ago.

            And Canada pays zero money to the monarchy, so they a rent a money suck either.

            So circling back to people no understanding… thanks for proving my point explicitly!

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              Right, so time to get rid of the pointless institution. Why is this family receiving state money when there is no justification for them to be doing so? Bye bye, time to get a real job.

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                We don’t pay them though….

                Thanks for proving my point mate!

                It would cost us money to remove them while it costs us nothing for them to sit there.

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                    Most of those costs would be there regardless of the moncarchy.

                    Still have to upkeep historical buildings, still need to accommodate nationals among other costs.

                    And we don’t know what the other option could cost, it may cost more since we don’t have established accommodations.

                    It’s not as simple as you seem to think, those costs wouldn’t just go away….

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      51 per cent, agreed with the statement that […] “we have to get rid of it.” In comparison, 33 per cent said the monarchy is an important part of the country’s history.

      What kind of polling is this? It is not a contradictory standpoint to both say that something is an important part of a countries history, and it should be removed anyways.

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          I don’t think the issue is the people participating, it’s the design of the poll itself

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            The design of the poll is fine, if people were educated on how the monarchy works.

            You don’t go into a lawyers office and poll them on a bunch of construction topics, that doesn’t mean the design of the poll is inherently flawed.