Yeah, I can see that. I sometimes think people don’t have a sufficient imagination when it comes to what the cost could be, or they don’t think some of the horrible stuff could be possible. So I was giving some push back.

I think we need to think about these things because I think we are rapidly heading to a darker place.

I don’t think we can rely on there being a large amount of people like you to take all the hits. I think we need to find a way to share the work amongst everyone to get to a better place. So I think having the expectation that everyone works against their most deeply held interests like family is one that will make us weaker as a whole.