Full of hot air - eviltoast

Make up your mind Google AI. Is sound faster in air that is less dense or more dense?

Honestly, there is so much wrong in the AI answers that it’s hard to know where to start, but the direct contradiction of itself seems like a good start.

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    2 days ago

    I don’t understand why people are complaining about these shitty features instead of just turning them off.

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      Because it can have negative impacts on the lives of people who aren’t savvy enough to double check the info. There’s already enough misinfo on the internet. We don’t need a (formerly) trusted source spreading more.

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      Not everyone is savvy enough to turn it off, for one. The average person isn’t even going to think about turning it off. That means a lot of people are now being fed a top search result that is the wrong info half of the time. Not just the wrong webpage, but actually the wrong information.

      For another thing, it shouldn’t be on by default if it’s so bad. If this was a traditional bug giving you incorrect search results half the time, it wouldn’t be released. But because of this AI race that’s happening, google is willing to release this massive bug live, and on by default. We should be complaining about it!

      I also think part of the problem is that it seems really useful. At first glance it seems like it has quickly and succinctly summarized the information that is deep inside other web pages, and presented the answer to specifically what i was looking for (quite confidently, at that.) It’s very easy to fall into a trap of trusting the information told to you.

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        Yeah I was addressing the audience here on Lemmy though. I get thinking the feature sucks but you can turn it off, which I did a while ago. I think it would make a lot more sense to complain about this in a setting like reddit where you’re not preaching to the choir so directly.

        On Lemmy, I feel like 90% of users can build an app from source and debug dependency issues to make it happen. So it’s just odd to me that I still see this getting beat to death here.

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          Just because you can turn it off for yourself doesn’t mean the problem no longer exists.

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            No one said it no longer exists. Just that if you know you can turn it off but refuse to, you kind of have no right to complain about it.

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              Yes, you do. You can complain about google (or whoever) feeding disinformation to the masses.

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                2 days ago

                That’s not what you’re doing. You’re complaining about something you could easily fix for yourself. Have fun with that.

                • JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.caOPM
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                  I wasn’t complaining. I was making fun of it, pointing out how dumb it is. I thought people would appreciate it (and it seems to be the case, with a few exceptions) and I created the community so there was a contained place for people to do the same. You don’t have to participate in it, there’s a way to turn off that feature.

                  However, I responded to your comment about people complaining because I think people have every right to complain. You seem very focused on the problem being for individuals, when I think the problem (that I’m talking about) is much bigger than that.

                  And no, I can not fix Google giving incorrect information to billions of people.

                  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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                    no, I can not fix Google giving incorrect information to billions of people

                    Yeah, that’s kind of the point, you’re just preaching to the choir, which you seem to indirectly acknowledge… But you can easily fix it for yourself. Are you trying to say you put up with shitty AI features on everyone’s behalf? Lotta good that does.

                    It made sense to complain about this a few months. At this point if you’re still having the problem it’s by choice. And this “with me or against” me thing isn’t really working for you. Google sucks and I wish I could leave them entirely. For now, I just turned this particular garbage off. And not that I approve of giving people crappy info, but the internet never was a guaranteed source of flawless info. 15 years ago people were shitting all over wikipedia for being potentially wrong, now it’s google garbage “helpful” features. In any case if an internet user doesn’t check info they get, they’re kind of the idiot.

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      “I neeeeed them for wooorrrrrrrk”

      I dunno. The hypetrain might be the biggest we’ve seen in our lifetimes, relative to the actual impact of the, y’know, thing. That’s Trillions of Quattloos worth of hype out there pumping the lies of what it can do to people who can’t remember how to clear the cache.