That’s kinda what threw me off cause straight pipes are cheap and probably the loudest an exhaust you can get it just sounds like shit hence why most cars guys get simply weaker mufflers so basically if you just want a car to be loud straight pipes are the go to but if the car guy wants his car to sound good they get the expensive weak muffler otherwise they have to tune the engine for the sound it’s self to sound good on a straight pipe sacrificing performance ironically from what I’ve been told the fastest cars on the road are actually silent only making noise when they get up to speed spuling up the turbos and making a loud booming backfire when downshifting