Zelensky dismisses compromise with Putin, pointing to Prigozhin’s death - eviltoast

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    47
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I’m skeptical the government would allow him to do that.

    He’s not actually a god-king. If a leader ever became a threat to the power structure, he’d be eliminated. Just ask JFK 🙃

    • LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      Deutsch
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      I don’t think you can compare those situations. Putin has had everyone fall out the window that was a threat to his power. Or accidentally get himself stabbed with poison by a Russian agent. Or pour themselves poisoned tea definitely nobody else poisoned.

      • ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        In the west we say Putin, like he’s some sorta boogieman. In the US our politicians are essentially puppets with some corporation’s hand up their ass. Yes, Putin has been in power for years; that doesn’t mean he isn’t in power because he keeps the oligarch’s money flowing. The second the money flow comes into question, someone falls from a window.

        Now I’m not saying Putin isn’t the one ordering the hits - he could be and also potentially couldn’t be. What I am saying is that there are often multiple versions of the truth and/or layers to that truth.

        I think Zelenskyy is right, don’t make deals with the devil. But there’s a 100% certainty that this isn’t only “Putin’s War” and there are more players, potentially those with their hand deep in Putin’s ass, pulling his puppet-strings

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        15
        ·
        1 year ago

        You think Putin is the one personally pushing people out of windows?

        This is bigger than he is - he’s a figurehead of a power bloc within the government, he isn’t god.

          • pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            Just ignore that obvious shill. The other day they were denying the importance of education to combat propaganda. It’s obvious where their loyalties lie.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            10
            arrow-down
            11
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Did Putin conquer Russia all by himself?

            The idea that he’s some kind of lonely tyrant and accountable to no-one really implies that he actually is a god, like he somehow managed to take over the largest country on Earth and rule it with an iron fist and there wasn’t anyone else that helped him get there or helps him stay there (and could help him “retire” if he ever became a problem)

            • LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              Deutsch
              arrow-up
              10
              arrow-down
              5
              ·
              1 year ago

              I’ve never said he alone is responsible for everything. For example, he has loads of assholes trying to defend him online.

              Good night.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                8
                arrow-down
                9
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                Defend him? I literally just said he’s an employee of the government, just like every figure head. The government is in charge, not the godking lol

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      17
      ·
      1 year ago

      Putin is, for all intents and purposes, an absolute ruler. He’s a lot closer to being the “god-king” of Russia than you appear to think.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        21
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Absolute rulers don’t actually exist. That’s fantasy stuff for kids books.

        Even under feudalism and in ancient empires the leader wasn’t actually like that, they could always go too far and be replaced (with lots of violence of course)