All the other brands went along - eviltoast
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    1 month ago

    I dont know why this is controversial. I’m way more happy with 4x USB-C, than 5 unique ports, that will likely never be used on a regular basis, even when they were relevant

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      1 month ago

      4 USBC would be cool. Most of these devices only have 2 or 3, minus 1 required for power delivery. If you have peripherals a hub is almost required.

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          1 month ago

          Just had a look at the prices, I can get 128 GB of RAM for the price that Apple charge for 16 GB of RAM.

          I’m tempted to get 128 GB of RAM just because, I definitely don’t need it.

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            It’s nuts. Framework marks up their RAM, and it’s still way cheaper through them than through Apple, and you can buy aftermarket RAM too.

            My next personal laptop will probably be Framework, especially since nearly everything else is going soldered RAM.

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        1 month ago

        I do have 4, but except for extremely rare circumstances I only ever use one. A single USBC cable handles an external display, power, plus extra accessories like a keyboard via a built-in hub in the monitor. If you wanted to that monitor also supports daisy chaining another monitor without having to plug it into the laptop.

        Obviously it’s quite a subjective thing, but if you happen to use tools from after USBC was a thing and your laptop routine is pretty established, I think you can get a ton of simplicity and function out of those ports.

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          1 month ago

          That’s great for a docking station setup. But if all you need is docking stations at home and the office, just get a mini PC/ mac mini.

          Laptops are supposed to be useful without a docking station, and if all you have is USB-C you can’t even read most thumb drives.

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            1 month ago

            Well I also use my laptop in isolation away from those docked environments, so it is useful.

            To be honest I’m not sure I’ve plugged in a USB drive in the last year, likely much longer. But I do keep a tiny A to C adapter in my bag, so if need be I can easily plug a traditional A connector in. If I were to buy a usb drive today I’d get a USB C or hybrid one.

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              1 month ago

              Having to carry dongles and hubs to connect to devices severely impacts the convenience of a laptop.

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                1 month ago

                I agree, but I really don’t do that. What I do remember 10 years back is carrying around a bunch of different cables for each of the ports I had, which is practically the same issue.

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                  I only carried cables if I was carrying the device that required the cable. If I needed to plug into something where I was going, whatever device I was using had a USB-A cable already.

                  With .ost modern laptops, you have to carry a hub so you can use that cable.

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                    1 month ago

                    I think it’s a pretty subjective experience honestly. I get by just fine carrying a single USB C cable. The USB A adapter comes out extremely rarely for me. Wherever I go, everything uses USB C.

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      1 month ago

      How about this:

      • 4x USB-C (can’t see why I’d need 4 though, 3 is plenty)
      • 2x USB-A
      • HDMI
      • RJ-45
      • headphone jack
      • microsd

      That should still fit just fine on the chassis if they didn’t do the stupid curve thing, and it certainly wouldn’t make it thicker.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          Yup, I have a 2019 Macbook Pro, so I’m well aware. But it doesn’t have any of the other stuff I mentioned. The new Macbook Pros has most of it, but still no RJ-45.

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        1 month ago

        They already come with what you ask, minus usb-a and honestly fuck usb-a

        2024 16" macbook pro: https://support.apple.com/en-ca/121554

        • Charging and Expansion
        • SDXC card slot
        • HDMI port
        • 3.5 mm headphone jack
        • MagSafe 3 port
        • Three Thunderbolt 5 (USB-C) ports with support for:
          • Charging
          • DisplayPort
          • Thunderbolt 5 (up to 120Gb/s)
          • Thunderbolt 4 (up to 40Gb/s)
          • USB 4 (up to 40Gb/s)
        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          • I like USB-A
          • RJ45 is important to me
          • the only USB-C I use are my hub, work monitor, and power adapter

          USB-A and RJ45 have far more value to me than a third USB-C. I’ve only ever used 2x USB-C at the same time, whereas my USB-C hub is crammed with non-USB-C ports.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          1 month ago

          True, yet they would totally fit, and do fit on the newer Macbook Pros. And many professional class laptops have RJ45 w/o making it any thicker (port flips down, so it doesn’t need to be full-height always).

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          1 month ago

          RJ45 connectors are commonly a folding down connector. HDMI can be replaced with a micro HDMI and is often replaced with additional USBC to utilize display port alt mode.

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        1 month ago

        I’ve got an external screen that connects with a USB-C-to-C cable to that thunderbolt port.

        Finding a cable supporting that is harder though, it needs both Power Delivery(PD) as DisplayPort(DP), and most cables don’t support the bandwidth for DP.

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        All you need is a travel dongle with hdmi displayport some USB-A and ethernet (If you really need that, tho) for me laptop screen on the go is good enough, have no usb-A devices (and those who have are upgraded to C using permanent usb legacy adapter mounted on the cable) and on the go, wifi/hotspot is good enough.

        At home, ethernet and USB A are connected through the usb C 4k monitor.