In the US, is this actually the moment past the point of no return? - eviltoast
  • Allonzee@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    No. Of course not!

    Failing to Reject the Reagan Revolution, and mass embrace of the Jack Welsh style “trickle down” economics lie, by BOTH parties was the point of no return, almost half a century ago at this point. This car was already totaled.

    Citizens United years later was just a victory lap by the owners pissing on the long dead corpse of the dream of societal equity.

    Trump is just another symptom of that intransigent reality we all live in.

    I’d say hope for collapse, as painful as it is, to have any hope for a better life for our children, maybe, but oligarch greed made climate change and at this point inevitable ecological collapse in the coming decades means there really isn’t hope for a better society/civilization for generations(if they eventually develop technologies to better cope with the new hellish climate reality) if at all.

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      1 month ago

      Why would US collapse though?

      I am not following.

      The current regime showing zero signs of distress, in fact they could extract even more and it seems plebs will accept it.

      Half the country is doing OT on bootlicking and regime whore worshipping.

      Most people on here too, and fedi is pretty redical by mainstream lol

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        1 month ago

        In the near term, people increasingly not being able to afford basic necessities like housing and food will lead to increased societal violence, but that likely won’t cause collapse.

        Climate scientists are increasingly warning of ecological collapse, meaning core climate systems will fail, like the Atlantic Gulfstream which will cause global famine and destruction, and that might be the end of human civilization all together, we won’t know until we do it within the next half century, and see the full extent of our fine work, a climate hostile to agriculture, dependable fresh water, possibly even standing structures not made of steel and concrete.

        But man are we speeding towards that cliff for short-term private shareholder profit, wheeeee!

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          1 month ago

          Yeah but even the bleakest estimates would take generations. Owners are getting paid today.

          Also, us is the holy land, food and energy sufficient. So us itself can survive the climate change unlike most other countries.

          Sure some plebs will die but that’s a small price to pay for success.

          Time will tell