Why is that the Normies had shifted from "I have nothing to hide" to "Privacy is not real"??? - eviltoast
  • Badland9085@lemm.ee
    6·
    26 minutes ago

    There’s worse.

    They already know everything about me anyways. If I can exchange my data for some free and easy to use service, I’m more than happy to give.

    I hate defeatism.

  • AAA@feddit.org
    20·
    2 hours ago

    The claim to have “nothing to hide” was not just born our of ignorance, but also out of comfort - to not having to do anything about it.

    Now that even the last one accepted that they do indeed have something to hide, but in order to justify their own inaction, it’s labeled as inevitable: privacy is not real.

    They are lying to themselves, because doing otherwise would mean they have to admit being wrong.

  • NaNin@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    301·
    3 hours ago

    A lot of people have just accepted surviellance for convienience.

    People close to me get TSA precheck even though it requires fingerprinting, because “the government already has your fingerprints”

    But if they did, why would they need to ask your for them?

    • brygphilomena@lemmy.world
      6·
      1 hour ago

      Depending on what people do, the government already has their fingerprints.

      Personally, I work around schools so I had to get a background check and fingerprinted for that. I also am licensed to handle explosives, both federally and at the state level. I been fingerprinted for that. I’ve gone through TSA for hazmat endorsement on a commercial driver’s license. That needed fingerprints and a background check.

      Getting fingerprinted to get through airport security is the least of my privacy concerns.

      But my threat model isn’t the TSA. They aren’t a concern of mine, although I do opt out of their facial recognition.

      I am concerned with internet surveillance, corporate surveillance, and communication surveillance.

    • octochamp@lemmy.ml
      2·
      53 minutes ago

      Sorry for devil’s advocate here because I agree with you but hypothetically the answer would be verification. ie., Google already has your password, so why would they need to ask you for it when you log in?

    • Mac@federation.redEnglish
      2·
      2 hours ago

      If you’ve gone to jail they totally have your prints already. Fingerprints are identifying information for such a thing. How else would they do that?

  • vaper@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    3 hours ago

    Off-topic, but I do agree in general that Edge is a solid browser. I use it when I’m at work and really love the vertical tabs and tab groups. I use firefox for personal use and am patiently waiting for the vertical tabs on the stable release (and not just in about:config).

  • Chimali@lemmy.world
    2·
    3 hours ago

    I do fall into that way of thinking sometimes and in discussions and such, but even then, i still take steps to maintain a level of privacy. It’s for stupid reasons, I’m admittedly not knowledgeable whatsoever on data privacy. (As in, why is it necessary since we already carry a lot of data collection devices with us as we go around that I know most people dont even think about.) But it makes me just feel better, I guess.

    Most of my friends have actually moved away from Firefox to more tailored browsers like opera, which i think is much worse in terms of data protection. (again, uninformed. It’s just something I’ve seen thrown around, feel free to correct me if that’s wrong.) At times, it really is quite easy to start thinking like the people highlighted in the post. I’m 22, and have a degree in computer science. There was a module on data security, but it was mostly focussed on data leaks and encryption methods rather than the ‘philosophy’ on why data protection is important. Even in the final year of uni, people were being quite flippant with it.

    It’s probably just a cultural shift, as more and more companies collect mass amounts of user data, people gradually get more comfortable with the idea I guess. Especially with gen alpha, who are born into a world where it’s just a fact that all companies are actively farming your data. To them, it’s not something to be concerned about whatsoever. There was never a time in which they had privacy, especially since they are introduced to technology before they can even speak, write, or remember.

    What I’ve put above is mostly just waffle honestly, but I hope it provides something to someone LMAO.

    Edit to add stuff: I guess to make the point more obvious, for younger generations it’s because privacy just isn’t real for them.

    • WanderingVentra@lemm.ee
      1·
      6 minutes ago

      Hopefully the Trump presidency is a wake up call in the importance of privacy. As we slowly move towards fascism, privacy becomes more important than ever.