Woman told House Ethics Committee she saw Gaetz have sex with minor, her lawyer says - eviltoast
  • EatATaco@lemm.ee
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    On Friday, Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson said he plans to request that the ethics panel does not release its report, saying that because Gaetz is no longer in Congress doing so would be a “terrible breach of protocol.”

    This is the best part of the article, where Mike Johnson, a big supporter of the man who is all about breaking norms, all of a sudden cares about “breaches of protocol,” especially in a case where the guy obvious left congress to hide it, likely because he knew he was going to be tapped for this position.

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    If there are so many straight up eyewitnesses to Gaetz’s pedophilic actions it makes me wonder what he gets up to when no one’s watching.

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      Essentially everybody in the cabinet will be a rapist in one form or another. This is a given since people elected a child rapist into office. It simply won’t matter. Instead, ask the question what Gaetz will do in office that is bad for voters. Playing on the man cannot help us anymore.

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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      meanwhile the Q crowd refuses to believe the simple truth is true, preferring to think it’s all a setup

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        This is the beauty of being a conspiracy theorist, it gives you free reign to believe anything you want.

        Evidence comes out that someone you support has done something bad? “It’s a set up and/or manufactured! Where’s the proof!?” Same evidence comes out that someone you oppose has done something bad? “See! I told you so. When will people start listening to me!?! Of course it’s real because I think they are running defense for this person.” No evidence evidence exists for your theory? “((They)) are very good at hiding it!” Evidence that kind-of-sort-of-almost-supports-your-claim-if-you-look-at-it-at-just-the-right-angle-in-just-the-right-light (but not really, it just is vaguely similar) supports something you said earlier. “HA! i told you.”

        You can always view/ignore the facts in such a way to confirm your position, if the facts are secondary to the narrative.

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      Correct. Minors cannot consent to sex with an adult, thereby making any sex between them automatically rape.

      I love this legal technicality because it both acknowledges and provides legal means to handle the deep manipulation by the adult that must lead to and occurs in such an… interaction.

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    “Merrick Garland’s DOJ cleared Matt Gaetz and didn’t charge him. Are you alleging Garland is part of a cover-up?” a spokesperson for Gaetz said Friday.

    I mean… you said it, not me. But now that you mention it, and in the context that Garland also deferred the investigation for two fucking years… yeah, maybe. Who fucking knows at this point?

    But to be perfectly honest, I expect this will all be swept under the rug, just like all the Trump cases. So good job slow-walking everything, Garland, you fucking quisling.

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      Honestly he lost all the goodwill he had from being screwed over for the Supreme Court and has really made clear why he was offered up as a centrist

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        Honestly I firmly believe he has been acting in bad faith all this time. It will temporarily settle my nauseous stomach during the Trump administration when they throw him into the pyre regardless of all his boot licking. Fucking centrist jellyfish AG.

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      Making sure a pedophile is setup in the new Administration so that they can ban porn involving consenting adults.

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        Even if they do ban porn, it will be an excuse to monitor and shape internet traffic first and foremost. They don’t care about filth, but they do want the ability to look for it, and mechanisms to restrict it. Then all of a sudden new reasons to restrict new content becomes more feasible and eventually the same idiot voters who screech about censorship will be the ones who help usher is the great firewall of China the United States.

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    “Woman told House Ethics Committee she saw Gaetz have sex with minor, her lawyer says”

    First, watched? I have several dozen questions…

    Second…you didn’t immediately call the police to report a child was being raped?

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      First, watched? I have several dozen questions…

      Saw != Watched, could have been for example seeing them going into a bedroom at a party. You don’t see the act, but you kind of know b what is happening.

      Second…you didn’t immediately call the police to report a child was being raped?

      She was 17, not 7, if you were in that situation would you call, especially that you don’t know the age?

      Also the witnesses is pointing that she saw those two having sex, not that she knew her bio at the time.

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        If all she saw was them two going into a bedroom, she would not have been able to testify that she saw them have sex. They could have stepped into the bedroom for any number of reasons. Yes, we can infer what happened in that bedroom, but that inference carries no legal weight without other evidence to support it. If she saw a sexual act take place before they went into the bedroom, then she still saw a 35 year old man sexually assault a minor.

        She was 17, not 7, if you were in that situation would you call, especially that you don’t know the age?

        If I had reason to believe she was 18 and of sound mind, I’d have forgotten that I saw them walk into the bedroom together by the time I was done with my next drink.

        Even if she found out the girl was 17 later, she still didn’t call the police and say “Hey, I saw a member of the United States House of Representatives sexually assault a 17 year old!”. At some point, she knew who Gaetz was, knew the girl was 17 at the time, knew what happened and did nothing.

        I’m not going to go into the age of consent issue, or the “Hey she’s 17, she knew what she was doing” argument, or the fact that she got into porn afterwards. A Representative in Congress trafficked a girl under the age of 18 across state lines for the purposes of sexual activity. If that were you or me, we’d be in jail right now with our names permanently etched into the sex offender registry. If a jury of his peers wants to look at the whole picture and say “meh”, then so be it. But he needed to be put in front of that jury.

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      Not digging into this again but I read the minor who had sex is not a cooperative witness and now denies anything happened. Kind of making this a “neither he nor she’s says but some people who were there say…”