Whole Foods argues it can ban BLM masks because the Supreme Court let a Christian business owner refuse same-sex couples - eviltoast

Amazon.comā€™s Whole Foods Market doesnā€™t want to be forced to let workers wear ā€œBlack Lives Matterā€ masks and is pointing to the recent US Supreme Court ruling permitting a business owner to refuse services to same-sex couples to get federal regulators to back off.

National Labor Relations Board prosecutors have accused the grocer of stifling worker rights by banning staff from wearing BLM masks or pins on the job. The company countered in a filing that its own rights are being violated if itā€™s forced to allow BLM slogans to be worn with Whole Foods uniforms.

Amazon is the most prominent company to use the high courtā€™s June ruling that a Christian web designer was free to refuse to design sites for gay weddings, saying the case ā€œprovides a clear roadmapā€ to throw out the NLRBā€™s complaint.

The dispute is one of several in which labor board officials are considering what counts as legally-protected, work-related communication and activism on the job.

  • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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    0ā€¢10 months ago

    You are really jumping through some hoops to prove that the saying, ā€œBlack Lives Matterā€ has nothing to do with politics. Say it out loud for us. Say itā€™s not a slogan and has no ties to political views.

    Not accepting facts contrary to your position? How very conservative of you.

    No matter how far left I am, thereā€™s always assholes like you pushing people back to the right. Iā€™m not going right because a bunch a angry teenagers areā€¦ angry. But youā€™re not doing the liberal cause any justice here. In fact, youā€™re actively hurting it.

    • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      4ā€¢10 months ago

      Are you saying black lives donā€™t matter?

      Where is the debate on the statement ā€œblack lives matterā€? Please argue against that statement.

      No what youā€™re saying is that the statement has been politicized by bad actors. But those are the politics of the bad actors, not politics around the statement itself.

      Should the depiction of the Earth as being round be banned as well? There is controversy around that, by idiots and grifters of course, but how is it different about the controversy around BLM?

      • @null@slrpnk.net
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        1ā€¢10 months ago

        Surely you share the same opinion about those who wear gear that says ā€œAll lives matterā€? Theyā€™re just good people preaching a message of love?

        • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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          4ā€¢10 months ago

          Maybe I would if I bash my head into a wall enough to cause enough brain damage that I donā€™t understand that ā€œall lives matterā€ is part of the politicization effort by bad actors.

          See there is an actual real world where people did things with motives that are very well understood. If your ā€œlogicalā€ arguments are completely dependent on ignoring specific realities, itā€™s not really a logical argument at all. Demanding someone ignore reality so you can have a big ā€œaha! I proved you to be a hypocrite!ā€ kind of moment is rather silly isnā€™t it?

          • @null@slrpnk.net
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            10 months ago

            So you only bashed your head enough to not understand that the phrase ā€œBlack Lives Matterā€ is borne out of a social/political movement?

            Are you saying all lives donā€™t matter?

            Where is the debate on the statement ā€œall lives matterā€? Please argue against that statement.

            • @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              0ā€¢10 months ago

              You are arguing in bad faith. BLM came out of police brutality targeting predominantly black communities. Period. End of story. If you donā€™t understand that, thatā€™s because youā€™re willfully ignorant of the world happening around you.

            • @money_loo@1337lemmy.com
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              0ā€¢10 months ago

              All lives literally canā€™t matter if youā€™re already excluding some in that, thatā€™s the whole point of Black Lives Matter you doofus.

              Remember, Black people count as people too, and as long as their lives donā€™t matter as much then the saying, ā€œAll lives matterā€ is false. Because if you cared about all lives, then youā€™d be caring about the black lives that are disproportionately harmed and murdered.

              And one only needs to take a look at society here in America to see the black lives are treated way worse than white lives. Nearly all facets of our society have some built-in racism whether youā€™re just going to the hospital with chest pains or trying to buy or sell your house. Youā€™re gonna get worse quality of everything just because of your skin color and thatā€™s verifiable fact.

              And yet all they want you to do is recognize that theyā€™re being killed at a much higher rate than other people, and want you to care about that. And for some reason that triggers you so.

              Saying all lives matter, and believing that is like having a life raft on a boat, and seeing some people drowning, but you decided to throw the life raft to the people at a table, eating shrimp. You know, because all lives matter. Black Lives Matter is just recognizing the drowning people and trying to help them.

              • @null@slrpnk.net
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                Youā€™re lost ā€“ Iā€™m not defending the All Lives Matter mantra.

                Iā€™m pointing out that Black Lives Matter isnā€™t merely a benign statement of fact, itā€™s a statement borne out of a social/political movement. Which you obviously agree with, based on what you wrote out.

        • @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          0ā€¢10 months ago

          No. Because they are in bad faith inverting the wording of the phrase to sound like ā€œmuh common senseā€ but in reality are just reactionary contrarians that are communicating their social conservative opinions.

    • @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      0ā€¢10 months ago

      Saying Black Lives Matter is only political to right wing racists who believe that the status quo, that Black Lives Donā€™t Matter, is fine.

      • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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        1ā€¢10 months ago

        So itā€™s political then? Just because one side of the spectrum has heinous beliefs does not make a thing non-political.

        • @money_loo@1337lemmy.com
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          Itā€™s both because one side wants it to be to diminish its power. But at its core itā€™s a human rights issue. Itā€™s the words Black Lives Matter, strange if you get upset hearing that and think itā€™s purely political and should be snuffed out where you donā€™t like facing it. šŸ¤”