Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youāll near-instantly regret.
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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)


I think the best way to disabuse yourself of the idea that Yud is a serious thinker is to actually read what he writes. Luckily for us, heās rolled us a bunch of Xhits into a nice bundle and reposted on LW:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/oDX5vcDTEei8WuoBx/re-recent-anthropic-safety-research
So remember that hedge fund manager who seemed to be spiralling into psychosis with the help of ChatGPT? Hereās what Yud has to say
OR itās just that the way LLM chat interfaces are designed is to never say no to the user (except in certain hardcoded cases, like āis it ok to murder someoneā) Thereās no inner agency, just mirroring the user like some sort of mega-ELIZA. Anyone who knows a bit about certain kinds of mental illness will realize that having something the behaves like a human being but just goes along with whatever delusions your mind is producing will amplify those delusions. The hedge managerās mind is already not in a right place, and chatting with 4o reinforces that. People who arenāt soi-disant crazy (like the people haphazardly safeguarding LLMs against ādangerousā questions) just wonāt go down that path.
Yud continues:
Why is that, I wonder? Could it be because itās actually not sentient or has plans in what we usually term intelligence, but is simply reflecting and amplifying the delusions of one person with mental health issues?
Occamās razor states that chatting with mega-ELIZA will lead to some people developing psychosis, simply because of how the system is designed to maximize engagement. Yudās hammer states that everything regarding computers will inevitably become sentient and this will kill us.
NO FFS. Chat-GPT is just agreeing with some hardcoded prompt in the first instance! Thereās no inner agency! It doesnāt know what āpsychosisā is, it cannot āseeā that feeding someone sub-SCP content at their direct insistence will lead to psychosis. There is no connection between the 2 states at all!
Add to the weird jargon (āhomeostaticallyā, ācrazymakingā) and itās a wonder this person is somehow regarded as an authority and not as an absolute crank with a Xhitter account.
Imagine a world where, instead of performing this kind of juvenile psychoanalysis of slop, Yud instead turned his stupid focus on, like, Star Wars EU novels or something.
Edit: from the comments: thereās mention about āHHHā, so now I say: imagine a world where all the rats and other promptfondlers dedicated all their brainrot energy toward the pro-wrestling fandom instead.
ah man this rules. just gonna live in this world for a bit
both would be funnier