Max Verstappen handed 5s penalty for VSC infringement, drops to 4th in 2024 Sao Paolo Sprint Classification - eviltoast
    • Vinny_93@lemmy.world
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      I’d love to see that. And then see Lando just come up short by 2 points or something, or get a bullshit penalty. Oscar’s win at Hungary will be the decider for this WDC and that will be definite proof that some of this stuff is scripted.

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    Ridiculous.

    They’re excusing the penalty because Max was “gaining an advantage”, the fucking audacity on these guys.

    After they conveniently called VSC so late and shortly after Norris swapped positions, and then greenlight it in the last lap in the shittiest of places on the track.

    The WDC is just being manipulated at this point.

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      Bro was literally partially alongside Oscar when it went green when he should have been 4 tenths back. Seems like an obvious penalty to me. He tried to anticipate the VSC ending, and lost.

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        He was 0.63 seconds below the minimum, over a half a second indicates he was overly focused on being right on top of Piastri rather than his margin. Max appears to get more reckless under pressure.

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          Absolutely this. We saw this clearly in the lead up to his first driver’s championship. Everyone maintained we were seeing a more mature, more sportsman-like Max since then, but instead he just didn’t feel any pressure over the last few years. He still drives like a pissed off teenager and makes it clear that every time you try to pass him, he’d rather just force you out or crash into you, no matter what the circumstances.

          He’s a fucking immature asshole. Always has been. Likely always will be.

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                Calling a driver a “fucking immature asshole” is not exactly a great contribution either and against this community’s rules (rule nr 1)

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                  I contributed my opinion, which included highlighting a long standing pattern of problematic behavior, and labeling that behavior with a well understood classification.

                  To be clear, I respect Verstappen. Anyone with eyes and a brain has to. His talent is without question. But that (and rule 1) doesn’t make him immune to justifiable criticism.

                  Perhaps “fucking immature asshole” oversteps the words of rule 1 if you squint hard enough, but I maintain that it doesn’t violate the spirit of it.

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          He was 0.63 seconds below the minimum, over a half a second

          If he was off by less than a second as to when VSC would actually end, he would have ended up above the minimum time before he could slow back down. We have seen countless sprinters jumping a start when they are held for longer than usual time and it was not because all those people crumbled under pressure.

          he was overly focused on being right on top of Piastri rather than his margin. Max appears to get more reckless under pressure.

          Well you always take more risks when you have the ‘slower’ car than when you have the quicker car. Max raced the Ferrari differently because he knows he can have multiple attempts to pass Charles. Against the McLarens, he pushing the limits to try and gain any advantage. Often results in him going over the penalties and some the incidents (T7/T8 in Mexico) were way over the line but I would rather see someone pushing the limits rather than just accepting their fate.

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            If he was off by less than a second as to when VSC would actually end, he would have ended up above the minimum time before he could slow back down.

            He guessed and was way off, you can sugar coat it any way you want about almost guessing correctly but he took an unnecessary risk.

            We have seen countless sprinters jumping a start when they are held for longer than usual time and it was not because all those people crumbled under pressure.

            I never said he crumbled, just cracked, if he keeps making these kinds of mistakes then he’ll crumble. Sprinters that jump the gun do crack under the pressure. Max made a mistake because of the pressure.