New Grounded Take on Batman to Feature Billionaire Bruce Wayne Not Helping Anyone - eviltoast
LOS ANGELES — The next film in the Batman franchise will be a grounded take that features Bruce Wayne deciding to not use his billions…
  • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    2 months ago

    If we cross a line to stop a bad guy are we any better than him

    Your analysis is correct but I’m so tired of this line in popular discourse and the media. See also:

    • stupidcasey@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      But if everyone killed killers then the relative number of killers go up and you only succeed when everyone is dead.

      • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        Wait, is that true?

        k = killers, i = innocents, p = total population, r = killer ratio

        p = k+i

        r = k/(k+i) = k/p

        If an innocent kills a killer: (+1 killer, -1 innocent) from becoming a killer; -1 killer from killing a killer; -1 innocent net change, so r goes up (bad)

        Now that you’re a killer, any time you kill another killer, it’s just -1 killer. r goes down (because the numerator gets smaller faster than the denominator) (good).

        This means that the first time you kill someone is always bad, but it gets better if you kill more people. You can offset the net cost of the first kill this way; if r <= 0.5, killing two people will do it. So you’re right that if everyone kills one person, the world will be full of killers. But this also suggests that the best course of action is for one person to go around and kill every killer, and then themselves, leaving the world temporarily killer-free!