For the First Time Ever There Will be a Vote in Congress on Blocking Weapons to Israel - eviltoast
  • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    I like this because then we can see who votes against it and know definitively who does and does not support this ongoing genocide

    • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Someone will add something to the bill that will give any who need it an excuse to vote against.

      • Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        3 months ago

        and any who take it can be safely counted as monsters in support of a genocide, fuck what they say after the fact

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          3 months ago

          Expect that “something” added to be a thing that makes the bill a non-starter. Something like ‘no assistance to Ukraine’ or ‘passport required to vote’ or ‘federal abortion pill ban’, etc.

    • Davel@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Assuming they don’t do a voice vote (PDF).

      Another example of more subtle forms of exclusion afforded by anonymity can be found in the practice of voice vote in the US Congress. While the roll call voting record, which identifies the voting behavior of each Congress member individually, has established itself as the dominant practice in modern congressional procedures, the default version still practiced today is the voice vote. Here yeas and nays are each expressed verbally and collectively so that the individual vote of the respective Congress member remains unknown to the public. The chair then gauges the majority and decides the vote. This procedure, which is the original practice of the US Congress, undermines transparency and parliamentary accountability. Obscuring voting behavior effectively shuts the public out and metaphorically speaking closes the doors of parliament to public scrutiny. Lynch and Madonna (2103) find that elections incentivize Congress members to request a recorded roll call vote. Thus, while the competition for seats enhances transparency, voice voting is still a common practice when members of Congress want to conceal their voting behavior on controversial issues

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    3 months ago

    I wonder how many of those who complain about “Jewish space lasers” will suddenly want to vote against this?

    • PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      If 80 senators decide the vote should be anonymous then it could be, right? Normally i don’t think that’d be possible but for something AIPAC hold so dear i could see it

      A voice vote would provide that anonymity and may be the path the senate goes down since then the official votes aren’t counted, but idk if that is paperwork that happens later.

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    3 months ago

    Too bad the vote won’t happen until after the election, if it ever happens at all.