Original source (in Hungarian): https://formula.hu/f1/2024/07/09/exkluziv-2025-ben-jon-az-f1-be-a-toyota
With how much Ferrari is involved with the car. I do not see this happening without major changes in how Haas operates.
Although with the Andretti situation I could also see them being pushed to make changes in how they operate.
With how much Ferrari is involved with the car. I do not see this happening without major changes in how Haas operates.
It’s about acting as an outside contractor for parts manufacturing. Unless Gene Haas wants to burn all bridges with Ferrari, nothing fundamental will change, I agree.
So it’s a nothing story. pretty sure McLaren has a similar deal
So it’s a nothing story. pretty sure McLaren has a similar deal
Exactly. I’m 100% confident the reports about Toyota becoming engine supplier for McLaren had similar origins. Heck, there may have been talks and why wouldn’t Toyota and their manufacturing customers not inquire about that. Andretti isn’t going to use Toyota engines, just because they lease the wind tunnel and possibly Toyota staff even building the miniature models.
RN365 suggests a sponsorship deal, similar to Alfa Romeo/Sauber, is being sought, while Formula.hu reports that the two sides could start working together next season ahead of the 2026 regulations change.
Unclear which one it will be, if the rumor is true.
I feel like Toyota are real competitors and wouldn’t want to do just a sponsorship deal, especially for a car that’s always on the bottom half of the grid. Especially with the cap it shouldnt be too expensive to actually invest in the team
8 seasons 2002-2009. I did not know this.
If memory serves, they:
- allegedly were the top spending or among the top spending 2 or 3 teams for much of that run (mainly competing with McLaren and of course Ferrari).
- after building one full-size rolling-road wind tunnel, built a second one… reportedly, to verify the results from the first one!
- never won a race
Toyota’s previous run in F1 was simultaneously sad and fun to watch. The rate of return for the amount of money they spent was pretty bad! I genuinely hope they do better if they decide to come back.
s run in F1 was simultaneously sad and fun to watch. The rate of return for the amount of money they spent
Reeally? That is highly notable and amusing. I’ve never associated toyota with high performance. Seeing how close the teams are they’d have to pull out the stops.
It was sad for all the right reasons and fun for all the wrong ones. They spent an insane amount of money for, at best, mediocre results. Many of those results came from poor decisions at the upper levels of the organization. On top of that, all that money couldn’t produce a consistent race-winning car.
Aaah for Fook’s sake Gene! That’s Andretti’s spot!
