Daylight saving has 80% support in Australia and a majority in every state - eviltoast
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      7 months ago

      This 100%. Don’t believe anything spewed in the crap article. The rest of the world is moving away from the death trap daylight savings causes all for a “small percentage” as shown in multiple real polls. This shit “news” articles need to be distroyed and the journalist (if they can be called that) banned from publishing anything ever again. Stop crap reporting at the source and do the world a favour.

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        7 months ago

        That’s a very good sample size if the participants were selected well. Most political polls use similar numbers and tend to be quite accurate.

  • Fluid@aussie.zoneM
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    7 months ago

    It’s the wrong question. Ask if people support simply moving the clocks forward an hour and leaving it there, and I bet you will get overwhelming support. No more of this back and forth, just give everyone more daylight in the usable hours.

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    7 months ago

    Meanwhile the US is trying to get rid of it. It’s basically a failed experiment at this point.

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    7 months ago

    It’s interesting that people want daylight savings in qld during summer because we spend most of summer wanting the sun to fuck off.

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      7 months ago

      Exactly. That’s why we’re an early morning city. Once the sun is up it’s too hot to do anything.

  • 𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zone
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    7 months ago

    Things I’m sick of hearing about: DST.

    Just piss it off worldwide. Leave the time alone. If you want more daylight hours, start an hour (or more!) earlier.

  • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zone
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    7 months ago

    So 80% of Australians want faded curtains. Have it your way!

    Though seriously how did they find that majority in QLD? Did they only interview people in SEQ? I doubt those in the tropics would like it too much and having split time zones within a state is silly

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      7 months ago

      Yes every survey is seq want is because to matches Syd time but once you get out of seq it rapidly turns to no.

      Also keep in mind the WA 3 year trial a few years and they didn’t bother with the 3rd year.

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    7 months ago

    I’m not a fan.

    Have trouble finding motivation to get out of bed. Having early sun is a huge help in summer and there’s not much I do in the evenings that would be improved by sun there

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      This. It feels like a major jetlag every time. And besides coping myself, there’s also dog’s and kid’s rythm killed, and I’ve got to compensate that emotions, too. (Not AU, but feeling I’ve just flown over to you from Europe, every change.)

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      7 months ago

      Survey data indicate most support daylight saving in Western Australia (64%). Support for daylight saving in Western Australia was higher in inner metropolitan Perth (69%) and outer metropolitan Perth (67%), compared with the vast remainder of the state.

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        I doubt the numbers. They are significant, and I expect that within my friends and family, I would have a number that support it.

        However, I don’t. As a result, I doubt the accuracy of the figures as a representation of the whole. I think it said 1100 respondents ? Edit: I just checked. 109 people from western Australia.

        Not to many to represent the state.

        Also, a referendum to the contrary also helps, but it was a while ago

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        7 months ago

        “vast remainder of the state”, that’s only 20% of the population. This author has no idea what they’re talking about.

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          I think you need to re-read that. They clearly said the “vast remainder of the state”, not “the remainder of the state is vast”. The word “vast” is being used to describe the percentage of places that have lower support than Perth. Not the total population living in places other than Perth. It’s quite obvious if you actually read the full quote, I’m not sure why you’re confused.

    • Nath@aussie.zone
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      It’s nearly time to try again. It’s been 15 years since the last trial/referendum. That was 15 years after the previous trial/referendum.

      We’re too close to an election to rock the boat now, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were rolled out next term.

      • MCHEVA@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        No can you just fuck off with daylight savings theres to much fucken daylight here as it is don’t need to save any of it.

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        7 months ago

        Yes although support for a thing between referendums may not necessarily be the same as support for a thing following a scare campaign during the lead up to a referendum.

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          7 months ago

          I always loved it. I liked the sun setting around 8:30-9pm. I don’t really see the point in dawn being at 4:30am, as I’m never awake for it anyway.

          Where it really makes a difference though is if you work with colleagues over East. I start work at the start of their lunch time, so I’m totally unavailable all morning. Same on the other side - their day is winding up by the end of lunch, so I only really have the morning.

          I know it’s only an hour, but it really makes a difference for communication to the other side of the country.

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    I enjoy the longer evenings in Summer and having the sun up at and earlier clock in winter. I’m not sure why some people hate it so much. Most people have smart phones and electronic calendars that update automatically and everything just works, no input needed. A genuine question for people who don’t like it, why not? What specifically is bothersome?

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      Evenings are the exact same length regardless of where you set your clock. Thinking DST gives you extra time is the same as someone who sets their clock fast so they have extra time to get ready for work. It just doesn’t make sense to trick yourself. If you want a longer evening then talk to your employer about it.

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        Of course it doesn’t generate extra time, there’s still 24 hours a day. What is does is adjust for the earths orbit and tilt, which means that seasonally we can have daylight during the regular working hours. The nice consequence is that there is more daylight hours in the evening. You must have a very generous employer who lets you change your working hours based on the seasons when you want to do evenings activities!

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      7 months ago

      Because without sunlight it’s harder to wake up, and because I run an international D&D game. Also, DST is a nightmare for programmers.

      Why do you want to get up in the wee hours of the morning in winter? Winter is already miserable enough with enough cold to make the world outside the covers terrifying and no sun at 6AM. You’re just making winter more unbearable.

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        I think you misunderstand daylight savings? Setting the clock back means daylight happens earlier in winter. For example, in Melbourne tomorrow sunrise will be at 6:40am. If we were still on daylight savings time, it would be at 7:40am, so still dark when a lot of people are getting up to go to work and commuting. And due to the way the earths orbit works, sunrise will get progressively later until the winter solstice. I definitely prefer having the winter sunrise earlier, so am happy the clocks go back to regular time. And in Summer, it’s nice to have the extra daylight in the evening instead of crazy early.

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          7 months ago

          Well, that makes daylight savings sound nicer, but a consistent time is still more important to me. My partners live in places with daylight savings and the adjustment always causes misery for everyone.

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      7 months ago

      Because while the sun is up it’s extraordinarily hot and the UV is high. The more north you go, the hotter it is in the evenings and the less it makes sense.

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        Slip slop slap if you need to. But also, I’m in Melbourne so it’s good to have evening daylight. I think because Australia is so huge the effect of DLS is very different across the latitude. It’s good in the southern states.

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    I spent the first ~30 years of my life in the US and we changed time twice a year. I moved to Japan and grew to love not confusing the hell out of my sleep schedule and productivity by not changing time. Depending upon the season, I just do stuff at different times if I really care about being in/out of the light/heat. I hope Japan never starts changing times.

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    I absolutely loathe daylight saving. I have no tolerance for heat so more sun in summer is my worst nightmare. I need to leave this country.