They now put ads in cigarettes - eviltoast
  • me66@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Time to start voting with your wallet, by not buying any more of them!

    • Daniel@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      Okay, this might be a dumb question, but do different cigarette brands do (taste?) different?

      Again, sorry of this is stupid.

  • Ech@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    “I can excuse the lung cancer, but I draw the line at advertising!”

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    11 months ago

    If you work on not buying cigarettes anymore you avoid the ads and something for your health and your pocket. Triple win.

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    11 months ago

    Cigarettes are bad and all, but from a business standpoint this is pretty clever. The EU forbade them to put ads on the package, so they’re putting ads in the packages. I hope my appreciation of their ingenuity gives the some solace when they’re burning in hell.

    • ██████████@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      bro if you think selling tobacco a product i both deeply enjoy and literally need to function sends peoope to Hell you need to go to confession

      one catholic to another

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        11 months ago

        You may want to chat with someone about that qualified to help you because that sounds like a potential addiction based on your wording

      • Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        11 months ago

        I don’t understand this take. You can enjoy a product but still understand that it brings more harm than good to society as a whole. I’m guessing tobacco is something you “need to function” because of the very fact that you regularly used it in the first place, probably at least partially due to the industry’s predatory practices.

        Don’t get me wrong, withdrawal is an absolute nightmare I am blessed to never have experienced firsthand, but cases of lifelong dependence are why those companies should burn in the first place. If there were a way to get you and others like you what you need while wiping the rest of the industry off the face of this planet, I’d do it in a heartbeat.

        If you genuinely enjoy smoking and believe tobacco has enriched your life, more power to you. Perhaps someone selling tobacco to people in your situation doesn’t bring harm, but selling that same product to someone who’s never smoked before and might potentially become hooked for life? Yeah, straight to hell. Fuck them.

    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      It’s not wrong to sell tobacco to a grown adult. An adult is responsible for their own choices.

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        11 months ago

        It is wrong to sell addictive substances to addicts.
        Sure, adults have the right to smoke if they want. They are, of course, adults. But that doesn’t make it okay for tobacco companies to advertise harmful and addictive substances to anyone, least of all the people who are already addicted.

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          11 months ago

          Sure, adults have the right to smoke if they want

          Even if it forces everyone in the vicinity to inhale that crap? Smoking has one distinct feature in that it harms not just the user, but everyone around as well.

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          11 months ago

          Being an addict does not make a person an invalid. An addict is still an adult capable of consenting.

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            11 months ago

            Addicts are not in proper mental capacity to make an informed decision especially when in a state of withdrawl

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        11 months ago

        They are burning in hell for:

        • putting ads in my cigarettes
        • being a big greedy company

        They are not burning in hell for:

        • selling tabacco in the first place
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          11 months ago

          “The findings of this report make it crystal clear: Big Tobacco is going all-in to target youth on social media and it has to stop,” said Yolonda C. Richardson, president and CEO of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. “Tobacco companies are among the most sophisticated advertisers in the world – marketing that reaches millions of kids does not happen by accident. Governments need to urgently address tobacco marketing online and ensure that social media companies are held legally accountable for the tobacco and nicotine marketing appearing on these platforms.”

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        11 months ago

        If everyone existed in a bubble then that would be true. Unfortunately your smoking affects others. If you only ever do it outside away from others then it’s probably only causing health problems for you, but that’s still putting load on the health system. However I’m overweight so it would be hypocritical of me to admonish you too much on that front. If you smoke indoors and near other people then you are making everyone smoke for your own satisfaction.

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    11 months ago

    They’re advertising alt-cigarette products, right? Probably from their parent companies alt subsidiary.

    I vaguely remember in the '90s they used to have slips like that in the UK. Can’t remember if it was advertising or things like “Collect 100 of these tokens, get a 20 pack for free!”

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      11 months ago

      Yeah it says “Heats real tobacco, doesn’t burn” so probably a vape. The big cigarette companies have all bought up companies in the vaping industry in the last years.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        That would be false marketing, then. The reason why vapes are much less unhealthy (still unhealthy and wouldn’t recommend them for anything except temporary use to quit smoking) than cigarettes is that they DON’T contain tobacco!

        • LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          11 months ago

          There’s a big difference between “heated” and “burnt” tobacco. Same as with weed vaporization vs smoking, vaporization is much healthier compared to inhaling burnt plant material.

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            11 months ago

            True, but e-juice still isn’t and doesn’t contain tobacco, is my point.

            The ad might be for another kind of vape that DOES use tobacco, which would still be MUCH more unhealthy than e-juice even without the burning.

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          11 months ago

          That ad doesn’t make any health claims tho. Or am I missing context here?

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            11 months ago

            You’re right, I’m just disspelling a common misconception about regular vapes and including why it’s significant.

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    11 months ago

    Philip Morris advertising a Philip Morris product by pretending they care about your health

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    11 months ago

    Australia has all cigarette packets an olive green colour with the usual graphic pictures as well as the same font used on all of them. Seems to work and the manufacturers have slunk off to their kennels.

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      11 months ago

      Norway has it too on ciggs and snus, not many smoke but thats becouse of how popular snus is

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      11 months ago

      but the smokers will never quit, those addicts will pay anything to make everyone suffer for their asshole decision

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    11 months ago

    Oh man, I just don’t care at all about ads in cigarette packs. I wish they would make them 5 times as expensive tho.

  • Vilian@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    i though that the guy in the bed dieing was an american health company Ads 💀💀

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        11 months ago

        I would like to apologize for my inadequate level of English proficiency. I am not a native speaker of the world’s current lingua franca which unfortunately leads to me making numerous embarrassing mistakes being made whenever I attempt to communicate using this language. Whenever I am reminded of how I lack the ability to convey my thoughts in an eloquent manner I feel as though I have committed a cardinal sin, as though every English teacher in the world are simultaneously shaking their heads and sighing due to how utterly disappointed they are at me.

        Although I know that saying sorry to those of you who are reading my comment will not change the fact that I fail miserably to write and speak perfect English, I am writing this as a way to deter a certain type of people who cannot stand poor English (Also known informally as “Grammar Nazis”) from mocking me by posting unwanted and unnecessary comments detailing my every blunder. In my humble opinion, making grammatical errors should be perfectly acceptable as native speakers should not expect non-native speakers to be able to communicate in their second or third languages eloquently. If you are able to completely understand what the other person wrote, is there really a problem with what they’ve written? No, because the entire concept of communication is the exchange of information between other intelligent beings, which means that no matter how the exchange of information is made, as long as the information is accurately shared there is not a fundamental issue with their ability to communicate. To see it in another way, remember that someone who isn’t fluent in English is fluent in another language. When you think about it this way, isn’t it impressive for someone to speak a second language in any capacity? Having empathy and respect are qualities that are sorely missing for far too many people these days, especially on the internet.

        That being said, I am aware that not all netizens who correct others are doing it to ridicule and shame. There are some who do so with the intent to help others improve and grow. However, displaying the failures of other people publicly will cause the person who is criticized to feel negative emotions such as shame and sadness due to the fact that their mistake has been made obvious which severely undermines the point they were trying to make in spite of their unfamiliarity with the English language. In most circumstances people are not looking for language help when they post anything online. Most people just want to enjoy themselves and have a good time on the internet which is why I would not encourage correcting other people regardless of your intentions. If you really do want to help others with their spelling or grammar, I would highly recommend you to help via messaging privately because not only will you not embarrass anyone, you can also go more in-depth with your explanation which I’m sure the other person will greatly appreciate if they want help, but I digress. I know that I’ve written a bit of an essay, but I hope I’ve made my points clear.

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            Before I begin my actual comment, I would like to apologize in advance for my inadequate level of English proficiency. I am not a native speaker of the world’s current lingua franca which unfortunately leads to me making numerous embarrassing mistakes being made whenever I attempt to communicate using this language. Whenever I am reminded of how I lack the ability to convey my thoughts in an eloquent manner I feel as though I have committed a cardinal sin, as though every English teacher in the world are simultaneously shaking their heads and sighing due to how utterly disappointed they are at me. Although I know that saying sorry to those of you who are reading my comment will not change the fact that I fail miserably to write and speak perfect English, I am writing this as a way to deter a certain type of people who cannot stand poor English (Also known informally as “Grammar Nazis”) from mocking me by posting unwanted and unnecessary comments detailing my every blunder. In my humble opinion, making grammatical errors should be perfectly acceptable as native speakers should not expect non-native speakers to be able to communicate in their second or third languages eloquently. If you are able to completely understand what the other person wrote, is there really a problem with what they’ve written? No, because the entire concept of communication is the exchange of information between other intelligent beings, which means that no matter how the exchange of information is made, as long as the information is accurately shared there is not a fundamental issue with their ability to communicate. To see it in another way, remember that someone who isn’t fluent in English is fluent in another language. When you think about it this way, isn’t it impressive for someone to speak a second language in any capacity? Having empathy and respect are qualities that are sorely missing for far too many people these days, especially on the internet. That being said, I am aware that not all netizens who correct others are doing it to ridicule and shame. There are some who do so with the intent to help others improve and grow. However, displaying the failures of other people publicly will cause the person who is criticized to feel negative emotions such as shame and sadness due to the fact that their mistake has been made obvious which severely undermines the point they were trying to make in spite of their unfamiliarity with the English language. In most circumstances people are not looking for language help when they post anything online. Most people just want to enjoy themselves and have a good time on the internet which is why I would not encourage correcting other people regardless of your intentions. If you really do want to help others with their spelling or grammar, I would highly recommend you to help via messaging privately because not only will you not embarrass anyone, you can also go more in-depth with your explanation which I’m sure the other person will greatly appreciate if they want help, but I digress. I know that I’ve written a bit of an essay, but I hope I’ve made my points clear. Anyways, here is the comment I wanted to make: lol

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      11 months ago

      Nah cigarettes in the EU all have pictures of gross stuff on them like this. Canada too IIRC, but it’s been a while since I was there.

      • Vilian@lemmy.ca
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        11 months ago

        a guy in a bed isn’t gross compared with we have in brazil lol, it’s straight up open wounds NSFW

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          11 months ago

          Yeah they have stuff like that here too. Some are pretty tame like someone in a hospital bed and others are like legit photos of cancer like your example.

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          Yeah same here, all the boxes are the same with a small line of text with the brand and “flavor” or whatever