US and EU struggle to agree on funding for Ukraine - eviltoast
  • atro_city@fedia.io
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    11 months ago

    I swear the EU and US aren’t taking it seriously - or Russia has managed to influence such a significant portion of the population that they could vote in a government beholden to the Russians.

    Instead of providing ammo to the Ukrainians, they are giving it to Israel, that wants to commit genocide.

    • highduc@lemmy.ml
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      11 months ago

      They already sanctioned the shit out of Russia and that doesn’t appear to be working (I saw an article earlier about how its domestic industry is doing quite well), and already sent a lot of weapons and equipment.

      Russia has fortified its positions and I doubt the EU or the US want to put men on the ground, so I don’t think there’s much they can do?!

      • azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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        11 months ago

        Sanctions are working as well as they can be. Russia is big enough that they can live in complete autarchy if they really want to (hell, Iran’s been doing it for decades). But they are under immense internal strain, which does affect domestic politics and military decisions.

        What we can concretely do though is keep supplying weapons, humanitarian aid, and military training to Ukraine. Supply more, even. They are fighting a war of attrition, that will last for years until Russia yields (unless drastic political change happens within Russia before then, but it’s nothing to bet on). But if Western support doesn’t waver, Ukraine can win this war through the sheer industrial strength of EU/NATO grinding down Russia’s ability and willingness to fight a pointless foreign war - kinda like the USSR-backed Vietnam did to the US.

        Russia’s only hope, and main foreign policy objective, is for Western support of Ukraine to stop, which is why you see every far-right Putin-loving and Russian-paid politician out there saying that sending money to Ukraine is “pointless”.

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          11 months ago

          They are fighting a war of attrition, that will last for years until Russia yields

          You are forgetting next year’s US elections, unfortunately. But if that doesn’t go the wrong way, the Vietnam scenario is indeed somewhat realistic, with the difference that Ukraine is a lot closer to Russia than Vietnam was to the US