How should Australia respond to India’s ‘complicated, problematic’ democracy? - eviltoast

Labor MP Andrew Charlton, whose electorate has the nation’s biggest Indian diaspora community, says Australians should not be hung up on the superpower’s flaws.

  • Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml
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    India has always been this bad. You’re hearing about it now because India is aligning itself with the East (BRICS) over the West. This wave of bad press is the officiation of the divorce

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      This wave of bad press is because the Indian government allegedly sent assassins to murder a Canadian in Canada. No one actually cares about BRICS, it’s India playing both sides to carve out what they want in negotiations, like they always have. Sending government assasins to murder people in other countries is guaranteed to get you bad press, it’s that simple.

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      India is only aligned with India, and Moddi is only aligned with Modi. It’s a founding member of BRICS, founded in 2009. It’ll play BRICS against the West and vice-versa. That game is not new to India.

      You’re hearing this because India assassinated a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil. You’re also hearing this because Modi’s dictatorship and increasing Hindu extremeist domestic terrorism cannot be hidden or ignored any longer.

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      Remember when there was some shit going down in India like burning rape victims and other messed up shit weekly in the news cycle? Well it’s all still happening, all the same stuff but somehow ppl let it go because India needs to be protected.

      Same thing with scam call centers that prey on the most vulnerable of the west.

      Seriously, India is fucked and not ready to be taken seriously but we all kinda have to because it’s a big country. Disappointing.

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            ongoing ethnic & communal genocide of Kuki Chriistains in Manipur for 5th continuous month, anti-Muslim communal pogrom by state and its thugs, communal hatespeech by govt ministers and religious leaders of Hindusm to create an atmosphere of hate, fear, and anger against Muslims, Christians, and Sikhs in the country, massive unemployment (42% of our under-25 year graduates are unemployed), food & fuel inflation, a Prime Minister & his admn who are only focused on grabbing & centralizing power, misuse of ant-terrorist laws to target jornalits & activists, masssive corruption by PM & the state govts of his political party, brakdown of law & order and the justice system where your religion & caste determine whether you get a shot at justice.

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                that’s the short list.

                sorry to dump on you. We used to be a lovely country that believed and lived in democracy and secular harmony, not perfect but trying to be better. But some people just don’t like progress, so they’ve dragged us into the dark ages where everything is a violent us v/s them conflict.

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          Difficult to ignore when Hindu extremeists live, study, work in developed countries with their casteism and Hindu supremacist politics which has taught them to hate, fear, & dominate non-Hindus (Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, atheists, etc.).

          Indian diaspora living abroad are major supporters (financial, social, and emotional) of Hindu extremeism.

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    And then there’s the question about how Western nations should react to the cocaine on a plane allegation. /s

    Edit: added the /s, since I guess the article describing the allegation as “disinformation” didn’t make it clear.

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      Using people not open affiliated to his political party to caste scurrilous & defamatory allegations on his opponents is one of Modi’s modus operandi. It makes his opponent go on the back-foot while Modi can maintain plausible denial over the allegations. The puppet who carries out the hit job gets rewarded for it or is often threatened to do it.

      In this case, the puppet is Ex-Sudan Ambassador Deepak Vohra and Modi govt has used India’s federal investigative agency, the CBI, to threaten him with in a case of alleged financial bungling in Indian diplomatic missions.

      source: https://thewire.in/law/cbi-gets-govt-nod-to-prosecute-ex-sudan-ambassador-deepak-vohra-in-financial-bungling-case

      Mafia tactics are predictable, and 9.5 years of Medi regime has taught Indians to look behind the smoke & mirrors to spot the puppet strings.

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    This is the same transition that the West had on China a few years ago. When it becomes clear that you won’t become another puppet of the West and want to carve out your own interests, the West immediately flips on you.

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      So you’d be chill with a bunch of white bogans moving to China then marching down the street while chanting crap about how they want a Christian nation? You’re fine with the USA assassinating foreigners who say stuff they dont like? Are you on board with the Bush/Trump era anti-islamic oppression?

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        If India was weaker and more compliant with US demands, these stories wouldn’t be getting past the editor. You can look at coverage on China in the 2000-2015 period and compare it to today.

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          India assasinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil is an example of India being strong?

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            India assassinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil is a byproduct of knowing that Canada has burned all of its geopolitical relevance and that the US won’t come to Canada’s aid.

            Canada had built up a ton of goodwill in the past, but a good chunk of that was burned up aligning with the US in increasingly inane military operations.

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              Its not India burning off the goodwill it has built over the years and turning into a terrorist state like Russia?

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                What goodwill has India built up? They don’t need goodwill because the US won’t do shit against India so long as China exists.

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                  I can’t describe how absolutely idiotic your comment makes you look.

                  Indian diplomats, ambassadors, Prime Ministers, Presidents, politicians, workers (both blue & white collar), some corporates have worked hard for 75+ years to create goodwill for India abroad. This goodwill earns India opportunities for import-export business, FDI, employment, study scholarships, diplomatic support, emergency support (remember the medical equipment & oxygen supplies foreign countries sent over during covid?), emergency food imports, co-operation in finding escaped criminals, tourism including medical tourism.

                  If you think India can wreck hell around the world and assassinate whoever it wants to because US needs it against China, then you are mistaken. India’ll end up marked as a terrorist nation and will be sanctioned.

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            There’s a very big IF. It’s an allegation of potential links. India neither has a policy nor a history of assassinating plumbers. There are real terrorists involved in India’s 9/11 holding speeches in Pakistan every Friday. If they weren’t assassinated, I doubt a Canadian plumber would be.

            It’s been a few months since that guy was killed and still no evidence, no charges, no suspects. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

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          That’s likely one of the factors, but far from the only one; the internet makes it easier to expose the bad shit their government is doing, which has coincided with a rise in religious extremism and nationalism.

          If you look at news coverage of the Americans over the past 20 or so years you’ll see a similar trend despite them supposedly being our allies.