Mozilla is Introducing 'Terms of Use' to Firefox | Also about to go into effect is an updated privacy notice - eviltoast

Hot off the back of its recent leadership rejig, Mozilla has announced users of Firefox will soon be subject to a ‘Terms of Use’ policy — a first for the iconic open source web browser.

This official Terms of Use will, Mozilla argues, offer users ‘more transparency’ over their ‘rights and permissions’ as they use Firefox to browse the information superhighway — as well well as Mozilla’s “rights” to help them do it, as this excerpt makes clear:

You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet.

When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

Also about to go into effect is an updated privacy notice (aka privacy policy). This adds a crop of cushy caveats to cover the company’s planned AI chatbot integrations, cloud-based service features, and more ads and sponsored content on Firefox New Tab page.

  • ArchRecord@lemm.ee
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    16 hours ago

    The actual addition to the terms is essentially this:

    1. If you choose to use the optional AI chatbot sidebar feature, you’re subject to the ToS and Privacy Policy of the provider you use, just as if you’d gone to their site and used it directly. This is obvious.
    2. Mozilla will collect light data on usage, such as how frequently people use the feature overall, and how long the strings of text are that are being pasted in. That’s basically it.

    The way this article describes it as “cushy caveats” is completely misleading. It’s quite literally just “If you use a feature that integrates with third party services, you’re relying on and providing data to those services, also we want to know if the feature is actually being used and how much.”

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      15 hours ago

      So phone-home telemetry that you can’t opt out of. The ghost of Mitchell Baker will haunt us forever.

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        14 hours ago

        So phone-home telemetry that you can’t opt out of.

        You can opt out of it. You’ve always been able to opt out of Mozilla’s telemetry. Not to mention that if you actually read the Privacy Notice, there’s an entire section detailing every single piece of telemetry that Mozilla collects, and if you read the section very clearly titled “To provide AI chatbots,” you’ll see what’s collected:

        • Technical data
        • Location
        • Settings data
        • Unique identifiers
        • Interaction data

        The consent required for the collection to even start:

        Our lawful basis

        Consent, when you choose to enable an AI Chatbot.

        And links that lead to the page explaining how to turn off telemetry even if you’re using the in-beta AI features.

        This page > FAQ > Telemetry Collection & Deletion page

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          14 hours ago

          It says they’re going to collect usage data. Nothing about opting out.

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            13 hours ago

            Look at the links in my comment, and you’ll see that all of the categories of telemetry data there can be opted out of with that single switch.

            JFC please read the actual documents instead of going “nothing about opting out” when it’s literally right there.

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              10 hours ago

              They use the term telemetry in a special way. If they are collecting info from users, that is telemetry under a different name, ok fine. Not collecting info means they receive 0 bits.

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                10 hours ago

                I truly don’t understand what point you’re trying to make here.

                Mozilla defines telemetry as “data collection.” Any collection of data by Mozilla is considered telemetry, as is described by the docs page that is cited on the Telemetry Collection & Deletion page.

                If you deselect the Allow Firefox to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla option, this disables all telemetry, or in other words, all data collection by Mozilla.

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                  9 hours ago

                  It says

                  Mozilla will collect light data on usage, such as how frequently people use the feature overall,

                  That says to me they want to know (among other things) how many browser users make zero use of the AI feature. To acquire that info, they have to collect it. You have to assume the worst when you see phrasing like that.

                  • SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    2 hours ago

                    Ah yes, they’re going to collect all those 0’s /s

                    No, they’re going to collect a “this person used the chatbot sidebar” if that person has telemetry enabled. That’s it.

                    If something changes or comes to light, then I’ll be worried, but this just seems like normal technical data they use to know what to prioritize.