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Hmm. So they’ve sneakily changed their ToS:
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If you want to give money to Pixelfed - here’s the official avenues from their website.
The kickstarter is official too, Daniel tooted it recently.
I see, thanks!
We’d rather not give money to a cultural appropriator who has been asked by black people multiple times to stop it, but he doesn’t.
Sorry I am not aware of the incident, do you mind elaborate? Thank you.
Thread and receipts here: https://mastodon.art/@welshpixie/113822469270748843
Dngwehs - dingua - lingua - linguaticum - language (fr) - langage - language
Prihos - pro-prijos - ad-proprio - approprio - appropriatio - appropriation
Histi - wesana - isti - ist - is
Bhel - blno - bulo - boli - bula - bole - bull
Skeyd - skitiz - skiti - scite - schit - shit
Since I’m of Proto-Indo-European descent, y’all need to stop that right now! 🙄
“Used AAVE as slang” is gonna get ya cancelled now? Lol, this is absurd, if those are the reasons, using them you can cancel 80% of young folk, y’all are crazy
This is kinda sad tho, that while racism and real bigots exists, y’all waste your time cancelling people for using “y’all”
Anyone simply hanging around people who speak a certain way is in danger of “cultural appropriation” I guess, since most people will subconsciously adopt the way the people around them speak.
I’m gen Z, pretty much all Zoomers I chat with use slang (and part of it comes from AAVE, this is just how slang develops, it often comes from marginalized groups), I can’t believe some people actually think this is enough to cancel someone for
If a person would write it somewhere other than Fedi, people would probably just assume that you’re joking or making fun of a term cultural appropriation, but oh well
I’m well aware that ‘Gen Z’ took something that wasn’t theirs, changed its meaning and used it to look ‘cool’ and gate-keep people from using the language they didn’t make. Whilst the people who literally created such language and other cultural aspects are laughed at and treated like shit.
So, no, it’s not as you say about ‘language evolving’ nor picking up things from hanging out with such folks, it’s literally about privilege, thinking they are entitled to everything, just like most white people.
Why the focus on white people? What are non-black, non-white people supposed to take away from this?
And if we’re just picking up language from others around us, we can acknowledge that pretty much every word, every phrase, every syntactical or grammatical construct we use, we learned by observing others. And we don’t always have the ability to specifically attribute sources for where we learned what, so trying to gatekeep who can and can’t use particular phrases or words is going to be prone to errors. And ultimately futile.
thinking they are entitled to everything
This is a FOSS-focused community. The core idea here is that publishing and sharing ideas releases it out to the world, where the creator no longer controls who may use it, or how they may use it.
That’s why your position on who can or can’t use certain types of language seems so foreign. It’s directly contradicting some of the core values that this community is organized around.
I don’t see a point in discussing this topic, I feel like I’m being trolled, I hope you will have a nice rest of your day!
So I guess the opinions of the people who made the language and have to suffer every day by being ridiculed for using it and other aspects of their culture whilst those that have privilege enough to not face that kind of discrimination can look ‘cool’ and use it to profit, doesn’t matter.
Okay.
Is AAVE = “African American Vernacular English”? That’s the only thing I can think that it would be.
Of note here, AAVE is an outdated term. AAE - African American English (still a little outdated) or AAL - African American Language (the newest, most accurate term) are more accurate. Linguists dropped the “Vernacular” because it is not a slang language, and are starting to change “English” to “Language” because it is most likely derived from creole, not English
Linguists dropped the “Vernacular” because it is not a slang language
Since when does “vernacular” apply only to slang? It’s just everyday language, which can include slang but includes plenty of non-slang.
Vernacular is specifically used for informal language, and in this particular case, linguists did not want to imply slang. I am not a linguist, but the sources I found from people who study AAE cited that as the reason for the name change
Thank you so much for the more accurate names. Though a lot of black folks I know still do call it AAVE or B(V)E (Black (Vernacular) English), I’m not sure why.
You’re correct that it’s not a slang language. I wasn’t aware that vernacular implied that, I appreciate the education!
It was AAVE for a long time, and momentum is a hell of a thing. Ultimately whatever the culture wants to call it, it is really up to them.
Yes.
If you actually read the thread it’s said multiple times “y’all” wasn’t and isn’t the problem.
Okay, but all other examples were just slang too, so my point still stands
It is not just slang, though. It is a whole language that black folks have been constantly asking white people to stop using as slang. This is just one public instance of it happening
Honestly just sounds like a white guy who grew up around a lot of black people and just wanted to fit in.
the problem here is that he never grew up
If that’s what’s happening then people often do things that aren’t okay to fit in.
If he’s been asked by those same black people he wants to ‘fit in’ with to stop don’t you think he should?
I’m not a native speaker. Man would I feel uncomfortable meeting you at a party. What do you even think of Elvis?
To answer your question, which may have been added later, if not apologies for missing it.
If you are talking about the singer elvis then:
I do not think elvis was right in what he did, a lot of white people take black culture and use it to gain power, money and notireity whilst the people who created it continue to suffer.
As far as I’m aware elvis did not help black people by giving them money directly, helping them gain more rights or anything similar therefore he should not be celebrated as much he sadly is.
Why?
I’m not in the habit of being mean to people that don’t deserve it. If it was you and other non-native speakers I would take my time to explain.
dansup isn’t that he has a lot of power and actual black people who created the language asked him to stop. So it’s not at all a similar situation.
What phrase or word did he say that offended them and provoked then to tell him to stop?
I’m an old white dude that cares about my African American friends, and tries to use my Caucasian skin powers for good. However some words work their way into general American culture from its subgroups. I think if people use lingo respectfully then there’s little harm. However there are some taboo words and pejoratives that should not be used.
anything said after the “However” negates anything said before it.
so try harder ig
Ok, they asked him to stop saying “we be” and “imma”.
I thought these phrases were ingrained in Internet culture and were no longer just a “black” culture thing.
No. Internet ‘culture’ stole them from black people. to make themselves look ‘cool’ without having any connection to or care for the actual meaning of the words from a language that isn’t theirs whilst not caring about or for the people who actually created it.
White people have historically and continue to do this and it needs to stop, not everything is for the taking.
Cultural exchange happens when things are freely given, not taken and black people keep pointing out that it and so much more has been taken from them whilst they are left with little to show for it whilst white people continue to use it for fame, power and money.
Please read the linked mastodon thread. Thank you.
I found it. Thanks.
There’s a lot of links and anger over “imma” and “we be”!
I think everyone might need to “chill” but that would have similar problems.
Yup, that anger is justified.
They need to stop taking things that aren’t theirs.
Haven’t both of these launched already? Seems like this should be a gofundme rather than a Kickstarter
Kickstarter works for multiple phases or versions of a project.
The only real difference with GoFundMe, is that Kickstarter will return backer money if the campaign doesn’t get funded, while GoFundMe has an option to fail and still get paid.
I’m a little lost. Pixelfed is already a decentralized photosharing service, and they already run Pixelfed.social. So what is Loops? An app?
Loops is a TikTok clone in the same way pixelfed is an Instagram clone. It’s an app and a backend server setup with activitypub. You can sign up now to the developer’s instance if you’re interested. After signup you get access to the beta app. It’ll probably hit the app store in a few weeks/months depending on how fast the developer can get it done.
Isn’t that going to be ruinously expensive to host an instance for? Video is expensive in terms of storage and bandwidth.
You can mitigate that issue to some extent by making the videos short. As long as the user count remains relatively small, the storage and bandwidth costs aren’t going to spiral out of control. Eventually you’ll have so many millions of active users that you’ll also need to figure out a way to get a steady source of revenue. I wonder how Loops will tackle that issues. Some mastodon instances already have a small yearly fee, so I guess video instances could do that as well.
I thought the same thing initially but modern video codecs, plus the developer’s plan to limit the videos to 30 seconds actually seem feasible. Large Lemmy and mastodon servers are also pricy to run but the community finds a way, I think it’ll be the same for Loops.
Short-form videos, similar to tik tok but with (hopefully) less brain rot
But I need a foss way to rot my brain
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