Lemmy enjoys growth as developers pivot from Reddit amid API charging controversy - eviltoast
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    1 year ago

    I’d love to see some stats on reddit engagement now. Anecdotally, I logged in just to look at my usual subreddits (the ones that are open) and they seem dead.

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      I use RSS to get feeds for subs that are not active in lemmy.

      Many posts are dog shit level now. Either looking for help or just garbage.

      Check out r/lemmino lol.

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        Oh RSS feed is a good idea. The only sub I still check is r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks xd

        Edit: Anyone knows a better free web-based RSS reader than Feedly? It kept sending me to its paid service for trying to sub to a Reddit feed, until I subbed to it via SiftRSS D:

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        Yep. I feel like all of the high-value like high-quality posters are now here or elsewhere and are done with reddit. I used to post a ton on reddit, even across multiple accounts. Now I just post here. lol

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      I doubt it made a dent. 250k doesn’t even register on the map of 100m active users.

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          Are they though? I didn’t submit posts on reddit. Looking at the front page of lemmy it’s missing a lot of the topics and subjects reddit posts about.

          I’m not trying to be a downer, I think 250k is great and it’s enough to make lemmy 100% replace reddit for me. But I don’t think it dents reddit. I talked to my friends and they barely noticed anything except the blackout. I go on reddit all the same communities are still posting and commenting as normal. But saying that when I looked at reddit I realized how much garbage is posted there compared to lemmy.

      • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.ml
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        So I saw this on mastodon … and it’s a little weird, perhaps not unlike the cultures that migrants develop in their new homes.

        There’s a tendency, I think, to overestimate how bad the “old” platform has become since “we” left. In reality, it’s not nearly that bad, if any different at all, and those of us not inclined toward this overestimation go and check the old platform from time to time and get confused as to where all of this “hellscape deadness” is.

        I think we can all imagine to some extent why this might happen. But I’m writing this just in case it’s healthy to point out that it need not happen, and that the thing that’s actually changed, though you might not know if you’ve arrived here recently, is this place, which is a whole new thing!

        A story I think of along these lines is what Steve Jobs did when he went back to Apple in the late 90s. Back then Apple thought they had to beat Microsoft to win. Thing is the company was close to dying with huge debts etc and were never going to do that (still haven’t come close today). But they were so enamoured with their past to the point of having a museum of all of their old products. Jobs had the museum removed, told everyone that for Apple to win it has to stop thinking about Microsoft because they’ll never be destroyed, instead Apple had to win by doing its own thing, and then, super contraversially for the time, had Bill Gates invest a bunch of money into Apple and appear on the big screen during a keynote to rather audible “boos”.

        It doesn’t matter what Reddit’s doing or whether they’re doing well. It matters if we’re doing well … as cheesy as that might sound.

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        I went to some threads on Reddit yesterday. Bloody hell there a lot of shit to wade through before getting to anything useful. It might be more engagement, but the amount of low-effort garbage comments turned me around really quick.

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            Yeah mate you found one good comment. How much shit did you read before you found it? These comments are highlighted because they’re the exception. I’m not interested in wading through tons upon tons of “this” and “came here to say this” and “you win the internet sir” before I find a good comment on quantum physics.

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                I don’t think you’re a shill. There a plenty of normal people on Reddit, enjoying the content like before. While I despise Spez, I can’t discount that they have created a product that people want to use.

                But there are also plenty of people who, like me, saw a decline in the average quality of content over the last x number of years. A move to the lowest common denominator. Comments like your example were more frequent years ago relative to today.

                Lemmy feels like Reddit when I joined 11-ish years ago. That’s why I’m here now.

                Edit: for what it’s worth, I also didn’t go to the default subs. I spent a long time curating to my tastes and hobbies, to the point where I even blocked /r/All from Apollo so I didn’t have to see the day-to-day shit. But it didn’t help. My hobbies deteriorated into memes and low-effort shit every day.

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      Wish someone would create a bot to copy r/HyruleEngineering to the community here.

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      They are probably confused about how to use an app that behaves like an ad carousel

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    I think having a link aggregator is going to be so great for the fediverse. It allows us to gather content from all over the internet and bring to to the often secluded fediverse.

    It also means we can post links to fediverse discussions and draw people in.

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      Yeah, that’s a problem with a lot of FOSS passion projects. We devs kinda like writting code, but not really documenting it. Hopefully with the influx of devs helping that will improve

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    So far, all the lemmy apps I’ve used are in very early stages and quite buggy. Currently enjoying WefWef (PWA / web-based app) which I like the best.

    Looking forward to Sync, though!

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      They’ve progressed very rapidly. Personally I don’t think we’re still in the “very buggy” era. I’m participating daily without major issues. There’s just a lot left to build.

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        I’m going to keep calling it WefWef since I like that name more lol. Not a fan of the Voyager renaming.

        Haven’t reinstalled the app so that it is still called that on my phone.

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          Probably wanted to keep with the space theme, given that it’s the go-to for Apollo users right now. I think it’s a neat little nod.

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      Thunder has been amazingly stable for me. I’ve tried everything else for android and they all stagger with loading, while thunder is buttery smooth.

      Voyager is great too but I find it struggles keeping its place if you scroll as much as I do.

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        Okay, I just tried Thunder. This is the best one yet. Clean UI, everything’s fast. How do I edit a comment, though?

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          weird ux but you have to hold your phone upside down when you long press it

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        I’m curious, why did you choose kbin over Lemmy? I immediately started away from it due to the lack of a mobile app and just seemed less integrated.

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          I originally went with kbin over Lemmy because the kbin webapp looked and functioned (for me) so much better. But now Memmy has gotten pretty good and close to Apollo so I’ve moved there. For me it’s all about ease of interaction/function.

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    Should be interesting to see how the fediverse in general handles more traffic, as we’ve seen with kbin and lemmy over the last month or so there are certainly some growing pains

    at least we are making the most of our new space here, we all seem to be building something fun here ghost

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        Federation in general seems to be pretty buggy, I’m running my own instance and I can see a ton of failed jobs happening in the logs. Seems like some of the issues are short comings of the ActivityPub protocol

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          @lohrun they are shortcomings in lemmy’s flavor of apub. activity pub is more akin to json than it is an actual social networking protocol.

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            @jeff@federated.fun i don’t know if there is much we can do about that though. I have read through the activity pub spec as I was considering writing a fediverse web app…I won’t disagree, it is glorified json. Unfortunately it’s the “standard” that has been loosely agreed upon. I might have the willpower to write a passion project FOSS fediverse web app but I know I couldn’t remotely begin architecting a new federation protocol as well.

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                That doesn’t seem impossible… I’m not sure what business logic would be needed to make them easily interoperable. Honestly the biggest complaints I’ve read about the fediverse isn’t the UIs available to view content. The issue is the bugginess of federation and the lack of content recommendation algorithms on the platforms.

                I’ve been mulling over the idea of a fediverse content crawler to allow instances to mass federate content to their instance…but then like I said you also need a good recommendation algo as well.

                We have a ton of dev work going into making new UIs for Lemmy but personally I think what I said above should get some love too.

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      I think that’s normal. People will try out Lemmy but if they notice that the communities they frequent doesn’t have a lot of content they’ll just leave back to reddit.

      We can hope for organic growth but it’ll take a long time (especially with how big reddit is)

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      They might be using some smoothing, because all lines are noise-free. and the last point might just be an artifact. It looks like a constant growth

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        According to the graph it accounts for active users within the last 30 days. 30Days ago the reddit strike started and an influx of people started posting. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people haven’t been here since. There was a lot of performance and other issues with lemmy&kbin at that time.

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          There is also always a flurry of people trying out accounts in multiple instances whenever there’s a migration wave, so not only are we seeing people who dipped a toe in only to leave, or go back to Reddit, but we’re seeing the effect of people understanding how the ecosystem works better and settling into a single active account.

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    Anyone who had an ounce of self respect threw Reddit in the gutter, where spez sleeps. Almost all subreddits have become trashcans bar the very small hobbyist niche ones, or stalwarts like r/headphones (even it has started to become a brag place and less of technical one).

    I still browse Reddit through Libreddit/Teddit frontends and RedReader/Infinity, and it is becoming a low quality joke, which is great to see.